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Cheezeninja August 26th, 2004 09:37 PM

Vanheim Research priorities
 
I'm planning on using Vanheim in an upcoming game and i was just wondering what research targets people go for with vanheim when they play.

I usually go for alteration 3 first, but after that im torn between contruction, enchantment, and conj. Thoughts?

Boron August 26th, 2004 09:52 PM

Re: Vanheim Research priorities
 
alteration 3 is probably buffs for your sc pretender .
alteration 6 is good too : invulnerability + soul vortex for your scs , false horror for your mages .

conjuration 7 is good for air queen scs .

construction 6 is good for equipping the airqueens .
staff of storms , air empower items etc.
good earth items like gate cleaver which your dwarfen smithes can forge .

evocation is good too especially until evo 7 :
key spells : wrathful skies , shimmering fields , orb lighning .

as long as your enemy isn't lighning immune with wrathful skies + shimmering fields or if you don't have that many gems with shockwave is really a brutal troop killer http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.



i would go enchantment 1 ( for fireshield / breath of winter for my sc pretender ) then alteration 6 (perhaps 7 for phönix pyre for my pretender ) .
then thaum 2 for sitesearch spells .
then evo 2 for lighning bolt .
after that conjuration 7 to get at least 1 airqueen then construction to equip her and then evocation 7 while you forge equipment for her .

archaeolept August 26th, 2004 10:23 PM

Re: Vanheim Research priorities
 
evoc is good earlier if you need some extra oomph from your dwarven smiths.

Cainehill August 26th, 2004 10:41 PM

Re: Vanheim Research priorities
 

Depending on whether you're going armies, or Van-leaders, evocation 2 can be quite handy - 5 or so lightning casters behind some troops are very good for indies, and even opposing armies.

Helheim - enchantment-3, allowing the Hangadrotts to conjure forth swarms of skeletons and undead in battle.

Just a few things others didn't mention.

Kel August 26th, 2004 10:52 PM

Re: Vanheim Research priorities
 
I would also base it on the circumstances of the game.

What does your pretender look like ?

Are there other air using nations, are you racing for air queens ?

What nations are your neighbors, who are you likely to be at war with ?

These all affect what I would research first.

- Kel

Yvelina August 27th, 2004 01:33 AM

Re: Vanheim Research priorities
 
I usually go for
Alt2 (plenty o'buffs, misform is overrated)
Con4 (wraith sword)
Alt5 (invulnerabily) or Alt6 (soul vortex)
Sum7 (Air and Earth royalty)
Con6, etc...

Once the Allfather is properly equipped (Alt2/3+Con4) he can take on anything anyone is likely to field at that time.

PDF August 27th, 2004 05:20 AM

Re: Vanheim Research priorities
 
To help early expansion I'd rather first go Evo-2 (Lighting), then Alt-2 (buffs), then either Alt-5 or Cons-4.
Conj comes later.


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