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PDF October 27th, 2004 08:42 AM

What happens if ? (weird questions)
 
1/ I GoR a unit gained through Enslave that was a magic leader previously : does he regain magic skills ?
2/ Can I put 2 Soul Contracts on a leader ? Do they stack and generate 2 devils/turn ? (given that the drawback is an Horror Mark the 2nd SC has indeed no bad effect..)

Boron October 27th, 2004 09:01 AM

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2) It worked perfect in 2.12 . Haven't tested it in 2.14 maybe you still get 2 but maybe it is now like with clams that they can't stack either .

Wauthan October 27th, 2004 09:07 AM

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1. I use this combo very rarely since capturing an enemy spellcaster is very rare. GoR have produced spellcasting units. If it is their original skills or the default I don't know.

2. Nope. After 2.14 item doubles don't yield a doubled result. Give him one Soul Contract and one Clam (or something similar).

alexti October 27th, 2004 10:34 AM

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PDF said:
1/ I GoR a unit gained through Enslave that was a magic leader previously : does he regain magic skills ?

Yes

archaeolept October 27th, 2004 10:48 AM

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in fact, to further elaborate, doing this can yield you a second (or third...) unique. That is, if you enslave Thuella, you will gain a Thuella clone by GORing her (she will be given a new name), and you could still have re-summoned the original.

Nagot Gick Fel October 27th, 2004 11:59 AM

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alexti said:
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PDF said:
1/ I GoR a unit gained through Enslave that was a magic leader previously : does he regain magic skills ?

Yes

That's not so obvious. I think you'll just get a new leader based on the unit type you enslaved. Eg, if you enslave a Mystic with FFFSS, will you get the same spread if you GoR him? And what if the mage had been magically empowered prior his enslavement?

An enslaved-then-GoR'ed unit will retain some of its characteristics (experience, afflictions), and will lose some others (name, heroic ability). Not sure if magic skill belongs to the former or latter Category.

alexti October 27th, 2004 03:06 PM

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Nagot Gick Fel said:
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alexti said:
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PDF said:
1/ I GoR a unit gained through Enslave that was a magic leader previously : does he regain magic skills ?

Yes

That's not so obvious. I think you'll just get a new leader based on the unit type you enslaved. Eg, if you enslave a Mystic with FFFSS, will you get the same spread if you GoR him? And what if the mage had been magically empowered prior his enslavement?

An enslaved-then-GoR'ed unit will retain some of its characteristics (experience, afflictions), and will lose some others (name, heroic ability). Not sure if magic skill belongs to the former or latter Category.

Yeah, I haven't thought about randoms or empowered commanders. I don't know what will happen then. Though they would certainly lose all their items. Yet another reason to use charm instead of enslave mind http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


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