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The Panther November 12th, 2004 09:26 PM

Strange Battle
 
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OK, I will put three pictures from a game attached to this post. If anyone has seen this before, please let me know. I am C'tis and my opponent is Abysia.

1. The first picture, there is a lightning bolt from a spirit helmet heading for a group of nine mages. The bolt is about to impact and is visible in the picture.
2. The bolt hits a mage and everything explodes. Note the shaft of light coming from the only mage left.
3. Poof! All nine mages are dead and gone, including the one with the shaft of light.

I checked and no enemy mage had a vengance pendant. I simply cannot see anything to explain this odd explosion. Does shock plus fire cause an explosion like that?

Anybody know?

The Panther November 12th, 2004 09:27 PM

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The Panther November 12th, 2004 09:28 PM

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Zen November 12th, 2004 09:29 PM

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The target mage could have had Phoenix Pyre (likely if the mage was found elsewhere, or one that looked like him, sometimes it scoots over units that explode from the PP). Or he was fatigued out (over 100) thus when he exploded he killed his friends plus himself because he didn't have the fatigue to come back.

Inner Sun and Medallions of Vengance are potential possibilities.

The Panther November 12th, 2004 09:49 PM

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Hm... Zen, you are truly an expert.

I just replayed the battle and the target mage had indeed earlier cast Phoenix Pyre. He is the one with the shaft of light in the middle picture.

He was at 95 fatigue and 1 HP remaining when the bolt hit. the 20- fatugue to return from the dead put him over the top. Also, even though the description says otherwise, this is really not a fire explosion, for all the other mages are 100% fire resistant but died anyway.

This makes it quite dangerous to be near a fire mage!

archaeolept November 12th, 2004 09:50 PM

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yah. phoenix pyre, then hit by lightning bolt is what it looks like. inner sun only hurt undead i thought?

Yvelina November 12th, 2004 11:10 PM

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Are you playing Cohen? Getting his mages wiped out by a friendly Phoenix pire is a favorite move of his. The exact same thing happened in Zombie's game.

One ghost wolf gets through the barrage... chomp! BOOM!!!

The Panther November 13th, 2004 01:04 AM

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No, this is not Cohen as my enemy.

But I do have to wonder if this is a bug. Fire immune mages should NOT die to a fire explosion. Though I am glad those 8 extra mages died, as they were seiging a castle of mine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

I am glad I know about this now, for I am currently playing Abysia in different game.

Zen November 13th, 2004 06:42 AM

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I don't know how often I have mentioned it or asked for it to be changed, but Phoenix Pyre does concussive, non-specific, non-resistable damage. I believe I mentioned it in another thread involving communicants.

I don't know the likelyhood of this being fixed because it's been on the docket for a few patches (meaning it's been mentioned but not resolved). But one can always hope. In the meantime, use your Communicants/phoenix pyre casters offensively with a 5 square distance pattern. This is especially effective against any number of summon spam mid-late game.

Endoperez November 13th, 2004 07:09 AM

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To me it seems that the mage survived. Something that looks like him has appeared little left from the big Foul Spawn (Grotesque?), near the far end of the battlefield.

And yes, it's Phoenix Pyre. I didn't know it bypasses fire immunity... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif


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