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Slick November 13th, 2004 07:18 PM

I dunno, guys...
 
but that Dominions II forum is really beginning to grow. By scanning the Posts, it sure looks like that might be a game I would like. I think I hear it calling me. I see a lot of SE4 players posting there. Would you SE4 folks mind to post your thoughts on Dom II? I'm downloading the demo now. I'd also like to know how much better/different the full game is over the demo.

Slick.

deccan November 13th, 2004 07:33 PM

Re: I dunno, guys...
 
Yippee! We got more defectors!

Captain Kwok November 13th, 2004 07:35 PM

Re: I dunno, guys...
 
Traitor! [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Cold.gif[/img]

Fyron November 13th, 2004 07:39 PM

Re: I dunno, guys...
 
Don't worry, they will be back once SE5 comes out...

The game has some really poor design decisions that make it not much fun to me... stuff like missile combat being poorly implemented (you mean my archers can't figure out how to aim at that single giant, and instead will pelt the ground for 100s of yards around him with arrows for no good reason?), a good chance of your units breaking morale and running away when they are handily winning the battle, the lack of empire-wide management, the lack of meaningful infrastructure development, etc. Not to the mention the lack of customization options during gameplay... The game just doesn't seem very polished... Sure, it has a ton of spells and items and whatnot, but the gameplay is lacking... It is certainly not as bad as Dominions I was though... Maybe Dominions III will be a good game.

Alneyan November 13th, 2004 07:43 PM

Re: I dunno, guys...
 
Hurray for Slick!

I believe there are two main differences between SE and Dominions:
- Dominions offers much more varied options than vanilla SE, since you will never have an easy access to all the interesting spells/items, and you cannot reach an optimal Pretender able to do everything either (so no such thing as the Clone).
- Where SE focuses on economics, via colonisation, building facilities and improving your economy, Dominions revolves around fighting. Early in the game, you will be facing independents, and later on your fellow players, and conquering provinces is mandatory to have an economical growth of any sort. Consequently, Dominions has far fewer buildings available, and they do not directly improve your economy.

That's a very short summary, as you were probably not asking for a lecture on the differences between Dominions and SE.

deccan November 13th, 2004 07:43 PM

Re: I dunno, guys...
 
Try checking this thread out:

Compaired to SEIV

Gandalf Parker November 13th, 2004 10:34 PM

Re: I dunno, guys...
 
I think they have more in common than first appearance. Anyone who likes the fact that it took them years to explore their own strategies for (either game) would do themselves a favor to at least take a look at the demo for (the other game)

Elmo November 13th, 2004 10:50 PM

Re: I dunno, guys...
 
I bought Dominions II, but not Dominions I. It never grew on me, probably for most of the reasons Fyron mentions above. It's not a bad game, it just never worked for me.

Edit - SE IV is much better IMO.

Slick November 13th, 2004 11:06 PM

Re: I dunno, guys...
 
Quote:

deccan said:
Yippee! We got more defectors!

Quote:

Captain Kwok said:
Traitor! [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Cold.gif[/img]

Indeed not!


Easy, big guys. I'm not defecting. There is no way I'll stop playing SE4. There is no harm in playing other games as well from time to time. It's just that I noticed one day when I clicked on "Who's Online" that there were a lot of people in the Dom II forum. Since then I check periodically and now the Dom II crowd seems to be growing quick. Could be a flash in the pan, could be a game worth getting. Thanks for the input. I'll check out the demo.

Slick. (here to stay)

Slick November 13th, 2004 11:36 PM

Re: I dunno, guys...
 
First impression from the demo: I guess I need to spend some time on the learning curve, but so far, there isn't much action. Maybe I'll put in some time later. For now, I got some planets to invade.

Slick.


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