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Reverend Zombie February 10th, 2005 03:21 PM

Leaders with only bodyguards rout when?
 
I've used the search feature and haven't been able to find a definitive answer to this question:

Assume I have in combat 3 leaders each with 5 bodyguards.

When will the leaders or bodyguards rout?

Specifically, I want to know who will rout when a single bodyguard is killed, and who will rout when all of the bodyguards of one leader are killed (but the other leaders still have at least one guard).

and, if a leader all of whose guards are killed routs, will THAT trigger the rout of the other leaders who still have bodyguards? I recognize this is included by implication in the previous question, but want to be explicit.

von_Schmidt February 11th, 2005 07:41 AM

Re: Leaders with only bodyguards rout when?
 
Pretty sure that in an army with only commanders and bodyguards, the bodyguards are seen as commanders: when a bodyguard or commander dies or flees, all will rout.

Reverend Zombie February 11th, 2005 12:01 PM

Re: Leaders with only bodyguards rout when?
 
Quote:

von_Schmidt said:
Pretty sure that in an army with only commanders and bodyguards, the bodyguards are seen as commanders: when a bodyguard or commander dies or flees, all will rout.

I accept this is true for ONE leader + bodyguards, but the posts I have read suggest that it might be an exceptional case designed to keep the one leader from hanging around when his bodyguards die.

Is it truly the case for multiple leaders with bodyguards as well?

Zooko February 14th, 2005 12:59 PM

Re: Leaders with only bodyguards rout when?
 
I had an army with many leaders since I was using Jotun Scouts (commander, stealthy, zero leadership) as my basic troops. I think I had only a few non-commander troops, and I had set them all to bodyguard. Oops! As soon as the first bodyguard died, my entire army routed and got slaughtered.

Ironhawk February 14th, 2005 09:59 PM

Re: Leaders with only bodyguards rout when?
 
I was under the impression that bodyguards didnt count at all towards the routing algorithm? So that in an army with just bodyguards and commanders, nothing would happen until one of the commanders was killed, whereupon everyone would rout. Easy enough to test...

Zooko February 16th, 2005 10:24 PM

Re: Leaders with only bodyguards rout when?
 
Oh, I don't remember now if it was a bodyguard or a commander (perhaps a Jotun scout) that was killed.


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