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DarkHorse April 7th, 2005 01:55 PM

OT: No black holes? One scientist thinks so...
 
Black holes don't exist!

According to this guy, anyway. Maybe Fyron should update FQM? (jk)

Starhawk April 7th, 2005 02:10 PM

Re: No black holes? One scientist thinks so...
 
Well I've said it before and I'll say it again, the guy is right about one thing there never has been proof of black holes what so ever we've just beleived the scientists that pulled the "black hole" theory out of their "black holes" heh.

Strategia_In_Ultima April 7th, 2005 03:08 PM

Re: OT: No black holes? One scientist thinks so..
 
Quote:


This strange behaviour, he says, is the signature of a 'quantum phase transition' of space-time.


Yeah right Geordi LaForge.....

To be honest, I don't know whether or not to believe this guy. I'm not much of a science know-it-all, so I don't get half of what this guy says to base his theory on, but I don't really know what to believe.

El_Phil April 7th, 2005 03:15 PM

Re: OT: No black holes? One scientist thinks so..
 
So no black holes, but 'dark energy stars' which are very similar on the outside, but you may bounce out of them. I don't claim to be any sort of astrophysicist but if you don't bounce out of a dark energy star then it sounds very similar to a blackhole.

Timstone April 7th, 2005 03:26 PM

Re: No black holes? One scientist thinks so...
 
Well the adsence of visible proof might just be the proof needed to confirm the excistence of Black Holes.

I mean, because of the extremely high gravitational constant (which increases towards the "middle" of the phenomena) even light is drawn into it. So I think there is enough evidense to say Black Holes exist.

Edit:
No, I haven't read the article... yet.

El_Phil April 7th, 2005 03:33 PM

Re: No black holes? One scientist thinks so...
 
Ahh but according to this you have 'dark matter/energy stars' which will behave in similar ways.

Although maybe it's my mind playing tricks I do remember some NASA photos from Hubble showing a point in space sucking atmosphere/materials into it. Which I think points towards something black hole like, which even if it's renamed technically will still be a black hole.

Suicide Junkie April 7th, 2005 04:03 PM

Re: No black holes? One scientist thinks so...
 
Quote:

Starhawk said:
Well I've said it before and I'll say it again, the guy is right about one thing there never has been proof of black holes what so ever we've just beleived the scientists that pulled the "black hole" theory out of their "black holes" heh.

1) Degeneracy Pressure cannot hold up a dead star over 1.4 solar masses.
2) There have been found binary systems which:
a) have a compact companion (white dwarf/neutron star or better)
b) which are over the chandrasekhar limit. Eg. 3 solar masses, 8 solar masses, etc.

My opinion:
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, lets call it a duck... Then poke sticks at it and try to peek inside.

NullAshton April 7th, 2005 04:24 PM

Re: No black holes? One scientist thinks so...
 
Maybe its a goose/duck hybrid?

El_Phil April 7th, 2005 04:29 PM

Re: No black holes? One scientist thinks so...
 
Ahhh Duose, a fine meal. Especially if you force feed them oranges then make pate de foi quack.

DarkHorse April 7th, 2005 04:39 PM

Re: No black holes? One scientist thinks so...
 
Careful, I hear quack is habit forming.


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