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wickedsick June 17th, 2005 05:42 AM

Why use Colony Ship?
 
If a Small Transport has the same size and cost and can also perform the colonization procedure, then what is the particular point of having a Colony Ship?

narf poit chez BOOM June 17th, 2005 05:47 AM

Re: Why use Colony Ship?
 
Because small transports are farther up the tech ladder, I think.

It is, however, 1:46 AM and I am both tired and afflicted with a headache - And I don't play much.

Greetings, and welcome to the community chat room. In here you will find mixed-up nuts, wacko's, mad scientists and people who want to conquer the galaxy. And then there's the weirdo's... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

wickedsick June 17th, 2005 05:48 AM

Re: Why use Colony Ship?
 
They're both available on turn 1.

Alneyan June 17th, 2005 05:50 AM

Re: Why use Colony Ship?
 
Welcome aboard, and mind the ceiling (silly greeting message number 15).

Colony Ships have one fundamental purpose: they allow your enemy to know for sure your vessel *is* a Colony Ship, and not a small gunboat in diguise as Colony Ships can only do that, unlike Small Transports. So, if you somehow feel the need of painting a big target on your Colony ships, you should use the Colony ship hull; otherwise, Small Transports are just the same, and allow *some* amount of secrecy (of course, Small Transports aren't exactly ships of the line, and their possibilities are limited, but they can do something else).

More interesting are the Destroyers and Light Cruisers for Colony Ships: their cost is pretty much the same, and they can get one more engine. Light Cruisers will also have some room to spare, allowing for a couple of weapons, supply storages... and the other players won't know right away that your "Guns to their front" Light Cruiser is actually an unarmed Colony Ship.

narf poit chez BOOM June 17th, 2005 05:51 AM

Re: Why use Colony Ship?
 
Oh, yeah. It's for the AI, I think people concluded.

Alneyan June 17th, 2005 05:56 AM

Re: Why use Colony Ship?
 
Can't you just make a design call for a Small Transport with a Colony module? I have been told one wily AI in TDM builds Light Cruisers with Colony modules and weapons, so it should be possible to do just that... then again, I know nothing about AIs (except how to cook 'em: they are quite tasty with a drop of red whine).

Colony Ships are sleek looking though (at least under the few shipsets I use), and it might be easier to find them when you have 758 planets and approximatively two thousand vessels. You should still give your Colony ships clear name though: mixing up those Rock, Ice and Gas colonisers is the perfect recipe for absolutely wonderful headaches.

narf poit chez BOOM June 17th, 2005 06:01 AM

Re: Why use Colony Ship?
 
There was a story once of a Stars! game where one player named all his ships things like ...----___...

He was quickly eliminated by all the other players.

El_Phil June 17th, 2005 06:24 AM

Re: Why use Colony Ship?
 
Hail yon fine-new-shaped-type-person! I bid you welcome to these forums and would point your attention to the standing rules about not provoking the zombie-mouse or drinking awful alleged beer products.

Strategia_In_Ultima June 17th, 2005 07:09 AM

Re: Why use Colony Ship?
 
[Space Pirate]
Hail, ye planet-lubber and welcome 'board me ship!
[/Space Pirate]

Now, where it really gets interesting, is when you're using baseships as colonizers. They're especially handy for Ring/Sphereworlds, as they can drop a whole load of pop on there right away if you stick 'em full of Cargo Bays. Also, while they're underway, the enemy isn't likely to attack you.

Also, if you're under threat from a powerful enemy (say, most of your systems have planets belonging to the other player in them), Baseships have an added bonus when used as colonizers - if you stick only 1 colony module on them and no cargo bays, you can arm it to the teeth. That way, if an unsuspecting group of three enemy LCs attacks what it thinks to be a harmless colony ship,..... imagine the look on their faces when the colony ship blasts the first LC with a single volley..... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Randallw June 17th, 2005 07:55 AM

Re: Why use Colony Ship?
 
Why would you use a baseship to colonise a ring/Sphereworld?. If you're at that level you should have plenty of large transports. I can see the reasons you mention but personally I wouldn't be sharing a system with someone I thought might attack me. Hell I generally won't even share a system with an ally http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif


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