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Norlion June 19th, 2005 01:39 AM

Characters as cargo
 
Take Darth Vader and make him a 1Kt cargo.
He gives special bonus' and can be moved from planet to ship.

You could have a whole range of characters that give bonus' or even penatlies.

Atrocities June 19th, 2005 02:20 AM

Re: Characters as cargo
 
This is a very old idea that has been used. You can also make characters into facilities. The STM uses Captains as components and I think the Star Wars Mod (new one) does the same.

The problem is:
1. Cheating - Adding more than one character to design
2. AI Design - using AI_Tags you can get the AI to add one or more to a ship design, but getting them to add the best one....well thats the challenge.
3. Room to list all the characters. Most recommended at the end of the component list as to not conflict with other components.
4. balancing and tech.

Good idea, and great minds do think alike. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Thanks for suggesting it, it is always good to see people posting their ideas, even if they are old, it is still very good to see them posted none the less by new members. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif It means you enjoying the game and looking to get into modding.

Strategia_In_Ultima June 19th, 2005 12:09 PM

Re: Characters as cargo
 
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Darth Vader, both as a ground troop and as a ship component. Also includes a "Hero" troop type that can be used with..... well, a hero.

If it's redundant, please ignore this post. If it's redundant and annoying/already implemented/too overpowered/etc. tell me and I'll delete this post.

Suicide Junkie June 19th, 2005 12:15 PM

Re: Characters as cargo
 
In the Play By Committee game, we used 1kt troops to represent the players' avatars, and help keep track of where everybody was.

Purely RP though, since the military officers weren't really brave enough to be dropped onto a contested planet.

kerensky June 19th, 2005 04:32 PM

Re: Characters as cargo
 
Quote:

Atrocities said:

The problem is:
1. Cheating - Adding more than one character to design


If you had the character as a component, then you could limit them to one per ship.

On a side note, it is possible to make troops weigh 0kt and mod in weapons that weigh 0kt....

Norlion June 19th, 2005 04:35 PM

Re: Characters as cargo
 
"Purely RP though, since the military officers weren't really brave enough to be dropped onto a contested planet."

I lead from the front. NCO soon to be OC.

A NEW STAR WARS MOD!!?!?!?!?! Where, where, where? I'm not worthy.

I've been playing SE4 for some time but I just found this forum. As far as modding I have worked on Escape Velocity Nova , Freelancer, and Superpowers 2, but I am mostly in info guy. I haven't devled into graphics much.

I have yet to invade a planet in SE4 after over a year of many, many games. I just don't see the point.

Suicide Junkie June 19th, 2005 05:32 PM

Re: Characters as cargo
 
Quote:

Norlion said:I lead from the front. NCO soon to be OC.
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I have yet to invade a planet in SE4 after over a year of many, many games. I just don't see the point.

Too bad you weren't in the PBC game then http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

In stock, planet capture is not worth much. Grabbing one just to get a hold of new-atmosphere breathing population is about it.
There are mods which make ground combat more important though.

Atrocities June 19th, 2005 05:51 PM

Re: Characters as cargo
 
Quote:

kerensky said:
Quote:

Atrocities said:

The problem is:
1. Cheating - Adding more than one character to design


If you had the character as a component, then you could limit them to one per ship.

On a side note, it is possible to make troops weigh 0kt and mod in weapons that weigh 0kt....

Yes, but if you had more than one character, with abilities, then to avoid the UPGRADE bug, you would have to give them more than one family number. This means you can keep adding hero's to your design.

Suicide Junkie June 19th, 2005 06:01 PM

Re: Characters as cargo
 
Nope.
Only applies to facilities.

If you try to upgrade a ship design in a similar way, you can't save it until you clear the warnings by removing the excess illegal components.

Kamog June 19th, 2005 10:50 PM

Re: Characters as cargo
 
If you made a component that weighs 0 kt, wouldn't you be able to install an unlimited number of them onto a ship?


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