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EaX September 3rd, 2005 06:55 PM

OT: Alternate Data Streams
 
For those who don't know Alternate Data Stream is a NTFS "feature" wich is really a security risk, a program can be executed and you may not realice that, check out these link....

http://www.windowsecurity.com/articl...a_Streams.html

TurinTurambar September 6th, 2005 03:56 AM

Re: OT: Alternate Data Streams
 
GEEEZZZZ!!!

Nice of him to put in a "tutorial" for the would-be hacker... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

People are stupid. I'm embarrassed to be human.

Arkcon September 7th, 2005 04:03 PM

Re: OT: Alternate Data Streams
 
Now I'd seen something similar, and I wonder if it was the same thing. I use a tiny, efficient, command-line defragmenter called DIRMS. When I ran it on my sister's Dell laptop, I saw dozens of the folder hidden thumbnail files (Gak, big win XP waste of space and resources) displayed like: Thumbs.db:encryptable

I wonder if it has anything to do with this? And why would Dell have to do something like this? This was before she was on the net, so I don't think it was malicious.

EaX September 8th, 2005 02:07 AM

Re: OT: Alternate Data Streams
 
Well you can always create a ADS and see if you get the same result with the program, if it does well it's pretty sure its a ADS, i think.

narf poit chez BOOM September 8th, 2005 01:00 PM

Re: OT: Alternate Data Streams
 
Thumbs.db? I'm pretty sure that's image thumbnails to be displayed in folders.

(Just my mildly informed opinion)

EaX September 8th, 2005 03:48 PM

Re: OT: Alternate Data Streams
 
Apparently you were right Arkon, its a ADS, check this out

C: Enumerating detected ADS...
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Location:C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My Pictures\Sample Pictures\Thumbs.db:encryptable
StreamName:encryptable
StreamID:BACKUP_ALTERNATE_DATA (4)
StreamAttributes:STREAM_NORMAL_ATTRIBUTE. (0)
DataSize:0 Bytes
NameSize:36 Bytes

Location:C:\Documents and Settings\All Users.WINDOWS\Documents\My Pictures\Sample Pictures\Thumbs.db:encryptable
StreamName:encryptable
StreamID:BACKUP_ALTERNATE_DATA (4)
StreamAttributes:STREAM_NORMAL_ATTRIBUTE. (0)
DataSize:0 Bytes
NameSize:36 Bytes

see the whole thing here http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/in...p;#entry158041

Arkcon September 8th, 2005 08:09 PM

Re: OT: Alternate Data Streams
 
Sometime when I'm at her computer, I'll have to try those sugestions mentioned there. But they don't really explain what happened before she went online to cause this sort of thing. Either Dell or M$ are up to some sort of shenanigans, who knows if its good or bad?


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