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Atrocities January 15th, 2006 12:22 PM

Hyperspace Drive?
 
Well I don't know if any one of you will buy this, I am skeptical to beat all hell, but if your into believing that we can develop technology to go faster than the speed of light, check out this web page. BS to Get a Defense Grant

Strategia_In_Ultima January 15th, 2006 02:22 PM

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Also, if a large enough magnetic field was created, the craft would slip into a different dimension, where the speed of light is faster, allowing incredible speeds to be reached.

Ayep. You could reach speeds greater than the speed of light. But you still need to provide a little something called "thrust" and "thrust" requires a nasty little thing called "fuel", and not just that, but "thrust" does not necessarily mean speed, you've got to take something called "mass" into account, and current speed. "Acceleration" takes "fuel" and the higher the "acceleration" and the "mass" the more "fuel" is needed to reach a higher speed.

What I'm trying to say is, you might theoretically be able to reach much greater speeds there, but you're still limited by your thrust and fuel. Shunting a ship into another dimension does not (necessarily) give it speed, so like it or not, all you're doing is essentially wasting your energy by getting into another dimension, that really IS all http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Not that I don't believe in FTL travel, of course (seriously), but this is indeed BS - albeit not necessarily in the way you meant it; when a fifteen-year-old student can poke holes the size of solar systems into a theory, I think it's time to review said theory. QED

Suicide Junkie January 15th, 2006 02:40 PM

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Somebody has been watching too much Babylon 5, possibly while under hypnosis.

I didn't think it was possible to watch too much B5, but there it is.

Atrocities January 15th, 2006 03:48 PM

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Suicide Junkie said:
Somebody has been watching too much Babylon 5, possibly while under hypnosis.

I didn't think it was possible to watch too much B5, but there it is.

ROFLMAO - Good One SJ.

Raging Deadstar January 15th, 2006 03:56 PM

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I wish the guys behind this the best of luck then If they have watched too much B5.

Only so when they test it I can contact them and yell "Get the hell out of our galaxy!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Renegade 13 January 15th, 2006 04:02 PM

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Strategia_In_Ultima said:
Ayep. You could reach speeds greater than the speed of light. But you still need to provide a little something called "thrust" and "thrust" requires a nasty little thing called "fuel"...

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Article quoted below said:
The theoretical engine works by creating an intense magnetic field that, according to ideas first developed by the late scientist Burkhard Heim in the 1950s, would produce a gravitational field and result in thrust for a spacecraft.


geoschmo January 15th, 2006 04:38 PM

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Strategia_In_Ultima said:
What I'm trying to say is, you might theoretically be able to reach much greater speeds there, but you're still limited by your thrust and fuel. Shunting a ship into another dimension does not (necessarily) give it speed, so like it or not, all you're doing is essentially wasting your energy by getting into another dimension, that really IS all http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif


No, not really. The whole theoretical idea of of warping space is that our dimension has curves and folds and by getting to another dimension you may be able to get there by a shorter actual distance traveled. Like a long curvey road that travels 100 miles to get around a mountain. If you could outfit your car with some sort of device that would allow you to drive straight through the mountain from point A to point B your car wouldn't need to be able to go any faster or farther then a normal car but would get there much faster then a car that had to follow the road.

wilhil January 15th, 2006 05:02 PM

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You can't travel faster than the speed of light, thats why scientists in a few years will raise the speed of light.

-- end futurama joke.

I think anything is possible. This is going to sound stupid and I am 100% sure some people will disagree with this, but if you look at some of the things we take for granted now, and what we had just 10 years ago, it is impressive.

When I was on a 40mb, 286, monochrome, brick of a laptop with no network/internet,(maybe more than 10 years!) I never thought we could get graphics cards with 100x the power of the laptop itself, dual core cpus (with quad and more coming probably before the end of 06), internet, and more.

I never thought that I could hold a mobile phone in my hand, and have a video chat with someone who is far away.

I never thought a lot of things would be possible!

a few years ago, I would not beleive that in a car, I could have a GPS system that can tell me exactly where to go by voice and 3d maps (maybe more than a few years ago!)

When it comes down to it, science is only true untill someone says it doesnt make sense anymore, If you look in history, like the Romans, they were sure they knew how the human body worked, they were sure they knew everything, and it was reguarded as the truth, and barely anyone questioned it. Doctors, scientists, and everyone else believed what they were doing as much as we believe in what we are doing now.

fine, it was wrong, and now we actually have to do a higher level of proof to any claim, and a lot of things have changed, but what I am trying to say is that they believed so much in everything they did, as much as we all believe in our rules today.

I am not saying things like faster than light travel will be here tommorow, or in the next 50 years, but who says what the next 1000 years will bring... we have come a long way, and I believe we have much further to go.

I saw on a program Nasa are trying to make a family plane that is self guiding, and could be used to replace cars in the next 10 years... I think more like 50 years, but still.

sci fi is becoming ever so more real, I never thought that holograms could become real, http://www.io2technology.com/

things of fantasy that some people say are impossible, are becoming real.

there are things that will be impossible of course... but I just dont think there are too many things to rule out, as I said, not tommorow, but who knows what will happen in 100 years from now!

Suicide Junkie January 15th, 2006 05:34 PM

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You have to distinguish between the "no idea how it could possibly be done" ideas and the "physically impossible" ideas.

ZeroAdunn January 15th, 2006 07:28 PM

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That is the thing, is anything physicly impossible? Even our own current beliefs of a speed of light limit are being brought into question these days. I would want to read more about this theory, but if Nasa is contacting him it may have some validity, if not for ftl then maybe for something more simple like a new form of propulsion. Either way, could be interesting.


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