Anti Helicopter mines
 

I think that it would be good to add some Anti Helicopter Mines to some country oobs.

AHMs use explosively formed projectiles to engage enemy helos passing by. Targeting is done by ir sensor, long range target detection is done through detecting engine sounds.

It can be simulated by creating SAM launcher armed with very short range (2-3 hex) high acuracy SAM. It should be size 0 and crew sholud be one man (with zero survivability) since game cant have unmanned units. It should be light enough to be carried in light vehicles.

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Has this ever been used before? I've heard of terrorist taking an SA-7 and setting a timer on it to intercept civillian flights, but who's used an anti-helo mine before? Is it some kind of prototype? Or do you just want it in the game because its cool?

Re: Anti Helicopter mines
 

Hi.
This was mentioned when I was in the Norwegian Air Force. My impression was that this was oversized Claymore-mines, that pointed upwards. From my understanding, they had to be fiered manually.
Halstein.

Re: Anti Helicopter mines
 

Nope, its all real http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. But, yes, i want them becsause they are cool http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif. (and effective)

Probably most famous AHM is Russian TEMP-20:
http://www2.janes.com/janesdata/yb/j...s/p0056181.jpg
http://www2.janes.com/janesdata/yb/j...s/p0056182.jpg

Source: Russian AHMs


Other mines of this kind are european ADW, and US AHM-200-1

And, of course http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif polish IMZR-11
http://www.wzu.pl/zasoby/kielce-02-01.jpg
Source: WZU-2

http://www.wzu.pl/zasoby/kielce-01-01.jpg

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Anti Helicopter Mines ! God! What comes next... Mineclearing Helos ??!! And what are the counter tactics?
Cheap UAVs playing loud heavy metal music?
I would not mind if they were somehow included in the game but I don't think it is a priority though. Gamewise, I can live without them.
Seriously now, are any of these systems operational?

Re: Anti Helicopter mines
 

Wrong, Hoplitis. Cheap UAVs playing "Y.M.C.A" over and over again over the enemy's lines...

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"Y.M.C.A." ?? Good choice for psycologigal warfare. They 'll propabely fail the moral check and retreat altogether !!

Re: Anti Helicopter mines
 

From debka.com headlines

DEBKAfile’s military sources: Did a novel type of “flying roadside bomb” down three US helicopters in Iraq?

January 21, 2006, 2:54 PM (GMT+02:00)

US forces in Iraq are encountering a new Sunni insurgent anti-air weapon which is proving deadly for low-flying helicopters. It works on the same principle as the roadside bomb (IED or improvised explosive device). This primitive weapon is thought to account for the unexplained downing in 10 days of three American combat helicopters.

more at the website

Re: Anti Helicopter mines
 

It's just an Iranian SA-14 tied to a tree and fitted with a timer. Or mabye it's just remote-controlled Terrorists have used, or tried to use, the exact same thing to shoot down civillian airliners. It's unlikely that they'd bother with expensive high-tech equipment like anti-helo mines.

What is this mine's effect on tanks and infantry? Can it be burried underground or hidden somehow, and do tanks and infantry set it off?