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Oggy ben Doggy April 27th, 2001 09:46 PM

Defence bonus
 
quick question, does the defence bonus from armor (scattering and one other kind) stack with ECM defense bonus?


CaptSpoogy April 27th, 2001 09:48 PM

Re: Defence bonus
 
Yes it does.

Also, for weapons there is a modifier variable that can increase the weapon's effectiveness...

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jc173 April 28th, 2001 12:58 AM

Re: Defence bonus
 
Are you sure about that Capt Spoogy? I ran some tests on this awhile back on identical targets at the same range one with ECM only and one with ECM and stealth armor and the to hit percentages for the firing ship were the same. Or is this a recent change?


Puke April 28th, 2001 01:42 AM

Re: Defence bonus
 
unless its changed in 1.35 from 1.30, they do not stack. they both use the same ability type, which is a nonstackable ability.

Suicide Junkie April 28th, 2001 03:47 AM

Re: Defence bonus
 
If you trust the "to-hit bonus" calculation switch in the ship design menu, they do stack.

It says my LC has +10 defence. When I add ECM III, it says +70. When I add stealth armor it says +85. When I then add scattering armor, it says +100.

I believe that it does stack, because I went up against a max-tech Phong DN in a crap-tech LC, it was hitting all the time. When I added both armors, they finally started to miss about a third of their shots.

Lord_Draconus April 28th, 2001 03:49 AM

Re: Defence bonus
 
I wish the offensive and defensive bonus you get for racial bonuses would also show up when your making a new ship.

[This message has been edited by Lord_Draconus (edited 28 April 2001).]

jc173 April 28th, 2001 03:53 AM

Re: Defence bonus
 
Which switch is that SJ? I don't think I've ever played around with that.

Phoenix-D April 28th, 2001 04:46 AM

Re: Defence bonus
 
The relevent section of history.txt..

"26. Fixed - Combat modifiers were not always added together but instead were maxed during combat.
28. Added - Added a to-hit modifier display in the Add\Edit Design Window."

Phoenix-D

Suicide Junkie April 28th, 2001 06:00 AM

Re: Defence bonus
 
When editing a hull, the buttons go:
"Comp type" (menu)
"Weap Mount" (menu)
-spaces-
"To Hit Modifiers" (toggle)
"Condensed view" (toggle)
"Only latest" (toggle)
etc.

What it does is switch the "shields/cargo/supply" stat into "offence/defence" modifiers.

jc173 April 28th, 2001 06:55 AM

Re: Defence bonus
 
Is that a new toggle? I currently have patch4 installed at least until I finish my current game.


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