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serg3d August 28th, 2006 02:02 AM

Hezbollah OOB ?
 
Have anyone tried Hezbollah OOB ?
If now one tried, how can I create a new country OOB ? Should I modify existing OOB (like replace Lebanon OOB) or I can create completly new ?

thatguy96 August 28th, 2006 02:24 AM

Re: Hezbollah OOB ?
 
You can't add new nations. You'd have to create a new Orbat within an existing OOB as a custom OOB. The existing Lebanon OOB or the Red OOB should provide a perfectly good shell for what you to modify.

Errol August 28th, 2006 07:00 PM

Re: Hezbollah OOB ?
 
In the wake of what just happened, you need to add
Saxhorn Metis-M AT-13 missile to Syrian Ally Hezbollah,
as well as Spandrel, AT-5. To play an IDF/Hez scenario, play as Syria, then select Hez units as well as Metis-M/AT-13 A-T systems.

serg3d August 29th, 2006 02:58 AM

Re: Hezbollah OOB ?
 
Hezbollah hasn't used neither Metis-M not Kornet in the current conflict (or at least there is no evidence of their use). I think I'll try to make a year 2006 realistic - Hezbollah having At-3/4/5, and 2007 "what if" - RPG-29, Metis-M, Kornet and Strelets(4-tube Igla-S SAM launcher, bought by Syria recently) I'll also try to experiment with ATGM with HE ammo slot, and see if AI will fire it on infantry.

PlasmaKrab August 29th, 2006 06:10 AM

Re: Hezbollah OOB ?
 
The IA does at least fire HE missiles at infantryin reaction turns (for player-controlled units). I've tested that to give FAE warheads to modern Russian missiles (Kornet, Krisantema, Vikhr...).
Works fine, except that for some reason the missile's flight isn't shown in extenso as when targetting AFVs, you just see the missile being fired and impacting, like with non-guided shots.

And, yes, apparently no evidence of Metis-M being used (the Syrians only have the old Metis btw), or of Kornets even being fielded. Possibly some have been acquired and kept hidden for future use in really serious circumstances, like the (possible?) Zelzal missiles.
Sounds like the Hizbollah got Syrian Milans, though.

serg3d August 30th, 2006 01:47 AM

Re: Hezbollah OOB ?
 
What HE kill value you have for FAE Kornet ?

pdoktar August 30th, 2006 09:55 AM

Re: Hezbollah OOB ?
 
I´ve seen pics of claimed hizbollah TOW launchers (TOW, not ITOW or TOW-2) on tanknet.

PlasmaKrab August 30th, 2006 10:45 AM

Re: Hezbollah OOB ?
 
Quote:

serg3d said:
What HE kill value you have for FAE Kornet ?

I've based the figures on comparable unguided FAE weapons (RPO-Z, TBG-7V on RPG-7...), factoring in the warhead caliber to get a damage scale. That gave me an artificially impressive HEK of 70 for the Kornet with its 152mm head. Ataka/Vikhr missiles have values between 50 and 60.
The HE penetration is kept low (between 6 and 12) to avoid unrealistic anti-armor 'pile-ups' against light-armor targets in the same hex.


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