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rsolow October 24th, 2006 01:21 PM

Magic Site: Steel Ovens? Construction Bonus?
 
I found a the Steel Ovens magic site and it says: "Construction Bonus 20." How does this contruction bonus work? Does it mean buildings cost 20% less to build in this province?

Olive October 24th, 2006 01:23 PM

Re: Magic Site: Steel Ovens? Construction Bonus?
 
No, it means all your construction spells and all the items you forge cost 20% less gems. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Nerfix October 24th, 2006 01:26 PM

Re: Magic Site: Steel Ovens? Construction Bonus?
 
Yup yup, very handy bonus.

Felgar October 24th, 2006 02:17 PM

Re: Magic Site: Steel Ovens? Construction Bonus?
 
Quote:

Olive said:
No, it means all your construction spells and all the items you forge cost 20% less gems. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Is that 20% less in that province only or 20% for any forged items no matter where the forging mage is located?

quantum_mechani October 24th, 2006 02:19 PM

Re: Magic Site: Steel Ovens? Construction Bonus?
 
Quote:

Felgar said:
Quote:

Olive said:
No, it means all your construction spells and all the items you forge cost 20% less gems. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Is that 20% less in that province only or 20% for any forged items no matter where the forging mage is located?

Just in the province.

Shovah32 October 24th, 2006 03:25 PM

Re: Magic Site: Steel Ovens? Construction Bonus?
 
While you often wont find one its very useful for MA ulm. Cast forge of the ancients, give the hammer of the forgelord to a master smith and put him in a province with the Steel Ovens, thats a 95% discount before you factor in the forge of the ancients, 70% if you can only get a dwarven hammer.

FrankTrollman October 24th, 2006 04:09 PM

Re: Magic Site: Steel Ovens? Construction Bonus?
 
At least in Dominions 2, multiple forge bonuses multiplied not add.

So let's say you had Forge of the Ancients (x50%) and the Hammer of the Cyclops (x50%) and the Steel Ovens (x80%) - that all got multiplied and you ended up paying 20% (.5x.5x.8) not -20% (-.5-.5-.2).

That being said, the Dominions 2 cost calculator also had an absolute floor of 1 gem per pathcost (that is, 1 gem for every 5 gems the item originally cost). So even if you were a Nataraja with the Hammer of the Cyclops and the Hammer of the Forge Lord (100% Forge Bonus together), you were still paying out 8 Astral Pearls to make a Ring of Sorcery.

I assumne Dominions 3 is still like that.

-Frank

Shovah32 October 24th, 2006 04:30 PM

Re: Magic Site: Steel Ovens? Construction Bonus?
 
Yea, i knew about the minimum cost thing but never knew the multiplying part, o well its still a great discount and really helps when cranking out banelord/black servant (strength boosters, heavy armour, horror helm and either awe or fireshield and they are mini terrors)


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