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Zen November 3rd, 2006 07:13 PM

Re: What sorts of maps do we need?
 
Some good MP maps would be non-startcenter maps between the 8-10 player range.

I am also more in favor of a heavily tested spread of indies, especially scout provinces, amazons, terrain.

Your maps are always beautiful, where I usually find problems is with the neighbor paths and the terrain tagging.

I would also like a heavy water map of the 3-5 player style (All 3 water nations, 2-3 land nations) with a creative use of seas and sailing since that adds quite a bit of fun to those unit abilities/nations.

Gandalf Parker November 3rd, 2006 09:40 PM

Re: What sorts of maps do we need?
 
The generator does OK.
I will be providing some maximum sized generated maps which most people cant create.

I think that balanced MP maps are needed. Approaching almost a chessboard balance so that no one can claim a "bad position" affected the outcome.

I also think scenario would be good. Have you looked at the MODs that Amos is doing?
Angelic Crusade
Stigian Corruption
Trade Confederation
Blood Elves
The concensus is that they are abit too powerful for competitive play but would make excellent scenario for a challenging opponent and a good storyline.

Lion69 November 3rd, 2006 11:20 PM

Re: What sorts of maps do we need?
 
How about a port of the Faerun map to Dom 3
that map is simply awesome

Jason_Lutes November 4th, 2006 04:59 AM

What sorts of maps do we need?
 
I've finished up an Early Ages scenario map that's still being tested, and I'm thinking about what sort of map to tackle next.

The main question I have for the Dominions community is, where are the worst gaps in map selection? We have the map generator, of course, but augmenting that with a good selection of custom maps seems like a good idea. With that in mind, what sorts of custom maps would you like to see? What size (number of players, provinces per player) do you feel is most needed?

Any feedback would be appreciated. I'd like to make maps that fill an existing need, so let me know your ideas.

Morkilus November 4th, 2006 05:19 AM

Re: What sorts of maps do we need?
 
I really like the idea of "scenario" type maps, so here's my vote for a late and middle age version! Perhaps with jungles so Machaka, Bandar Log and Mictlan can duke it out.

BigJMoney November 4th, 2006 04:39 PM

Re: What sorts of maps do we need?
 
I definitely want to see Faerun in Doms 3 ASAP, but to answer the original question, I think a scenario-like map with all custom content would be cool.

Custom indies.
Custom magic sites.
Custom indie thugs/SCs (is this possible?)
Custom populations and income/resources levels.

All of the above strategically located and coordinated with terrain types. Not all terrain types need to be used in one map, every time.

=$= Big J Money =%=

Nerfix November 4th, 2006 04:51 PM

Re: What sorts of maps do we need?
 
I'd like to see maps with thematic "kingdoms" of indies that could be taken to the point where they are rudimentary custom nations (ie modded) nations. An indie kingdom would have five provinces, one central province with a castle and all that and four surrounding provinces. They would be very tough to tackle on indie scale but the reward would be a castle and their "starting site". If taken to the point where they are custom nations they could even fight back...

...a less extreme one would simply be a map with a lot of custom content. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I think there was one a Dom 2 map that took one of the preset maps and made it so that players started with a small "kingdom" that had stuff like pre-found magic sites thematic to the nation and some extra commanders and such....pity I forgot the name of it. It was great fun. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Gandalf Parker November 4th, 2006 06:58 PM

Re: What sorts of maps do we need?
 
I think I mentioned that on my Dom2 site.
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An excellent example of a well thought out and designed game is the work of Peter Ebbesen called "Orania the Nasty Edition". Each race has specific starting locations with multiple starting provinces. There are additional castles, commanders assigned, equipment given, troops, and magic sites. All making logical sense within the theme of that nation. If you want to try that game it can be gotten from HERE. The Pros and Cons is while it is a great game to play, it might have a limited replayability factor.

http://pi2r.homepage.dk/dominions2/s...aniane_1_0.zip

It was part of the concept for my Semi-Random project where I would try to achieve the same thing but done by a program generating randoms within reasonable limits so that it had more replayability.

Its also what I had in mind when I said that someone should create a map scenario around Amos mods. Do what was sone on Nasty Orania but even farther (build the god, pad the opponent, make it really hard to beat)

PashaDawg November 4th, 2006 08:38 PM

Re: What sorts of maps do we need?
 
I would love to see a 2-4 player map for duels and quick games!

Love your maps! Thanks for making them!

Pasha

PDF November 4th, 2006 08:47 PM

Re: What sorts of maps do we need?
 
Hmmm, I'd like 150-some-provinces sized map, good for 6-10 players, and with some "theme", maybe coming with a scripted map. This makes a map more flavorful and unique http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


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