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Shan December 12th, 2006 06:48 AM

reduced ammo loadout of 2S3 SPHs?
 
I am using self-propelled artillery in some scenarios I am working on parallel, and this is how I found that there are some discrepancies of the ammo loadout of these systems, depending on which country uses them. So I looked up the 2S3 in the limited literature I have on this subject (Tanks of the World, Edition 8, ISBN 3-7637-5984-0, as well as the book on the East German army I mentioned in the respective OOB thread), and I found out that the basic 2S3 can carry 40 grenades, whereas the 2S3M and -M1 carry 46.

Now, it's clear that the type of ammo carried varies from country to country (availability of cluster ammo, doctrine (use in direct fire role - HEAT), etc), and I do not have any source on this, but I believe that at least the ammo stowage should be used to the maximum. In the current OOBs, however, standard 2S3s carry only 33 rounds in various OOBs I checked (30HE + 3 HEAT for Russia), whereas 2S3M and M1 in Russia and other countries carry a total of 40 rounds.

So - does the info I got on this most likely only refer to a theoretical maximum loadout which is being reduced for practical purposes (lack of space for crew?), or why would anyone send a vehicle into battle without using its full ammo loadout?

Mobhack December 12th, 2006 09:00 AM

Re: reduced ammo loadout of 2S3 SPHs?
 
On checking Isby's "Weapons and Tactics of the Soviet Army", he gives the SAU-152 (M1973) 30 rounds, the SAU-122 as 40.

A quick google search shows numbers agreeing with your figures, though - 40/46 shells. So my bet is the original 33 figure comes from the original SP2 OOB data, which would be based on the USA intelligence documents of the 80's.

Cheers
Andy

Shan December 12th, 2006 02:23 PM

Re: reduced ammo loadout of 2S3 SPHs?
 
Hi Andy!

Not that important, I was just curious, as for the 2S1 Gwozdika, it always carries a total of 40 rounds in the game and that's what my sources confirm as well - that's why I asked.

Thanks for checking,

Shan


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