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Corwin December 18th, 2006 02:53 AM

Bladewind/Gift of Heaven/Falling Frost questions
 
It's been a while since my Dom2 days, so I've partly forgoten few particular details- therefore I have few spell-related questions, which I hope somebody will be able to answer.

Remind me please - bladewind damage is condidered
to be "normal" type, not magical, correct?

If this is the case, then "Arrows Fend" spell should give 80% ptotection from damage done by Bladewind, correct? (IIRC "air shield" , which is basic spell that "arrows fend" cast on all ubits, only protects against nonemagical attacks.)

And what about "Gift From Heaven" - are they simply rocks or do the do magical daage as well?

Last question - do I remember correctly that "Falling Frost" damages units regardless of their cold resistance, unlike "falling fires", to which fire-resistant units are ummune? How effective are nummble units vs "Falling Frost"?

Endoperez December 18th, 2006 05:01 AM

Re: Bladewind/Gift of Heaven/Falling Frost questions
 
Check the manual. Blade Wind is indeed mundane damage, but Gifts from Heaven isn't. Falling Frost deals cold damage.

Corwin December 18th, 2006 07:23 AM

Re: Bladewind/Gift of Heaven/Falling Frost questions
 
Quote:

Endoperez said:
Check the manual. Blade Wind is indeed mundane damage, but Gifts from Heaven isn't. Falling Frost deals cold damage.

So you are saying that Arrow Fend will give all your troops 80% protection against BladeWind, correct?

Also manual doesn't say anything about Falling Frost being negated by high defense, but ingame description implies it. Do you know any details?

Endoperez December 18th, 2006 07:48 AM

Re: Bladewind/Gift of Heaven/Falling Frost questions
 
Earthquake, on pg 245, has "Def" listed as a Special feature. There are only perhaps one spell which has the Def tag, and it isn't mentioned in the early descriptions of AP, AN, Mundane and other special properties. Some spells can be avoided with high def, and if Falling Frost's descriptions says defence helps, either the manual or the game should be updated.

Corwin December 18th, 2006 08:18 AM

Re: Bladewind/Gift of Heaven/Falling Frost questions
 
Quote:

Endoperez said:
Earthquake, on pg 245, has "Def" listed as a Special feature. There are only perhaps one spell which has the Def tag, and it isn't mentioned in the early descriptions of AP, AN, Mundane and other special properties. Some spells can be avoided with high def, and if Falling Frost's descriptions says defence helps, either the manual or the game should be updated.

Thanks.

Yes, the question is "which one is wrong". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif


What about Arrow Fend? Does it really give 80% protection against Bladewind?

And talking about errors in manual - I always thought that Mistform is dispelled when the target is hit with the blow that does more than 25% of target's hitpoints or magical weapon. But the manual says it is just 25HP. Was I wrong or is manual wrong?

Endoperez December 18th, 2006 08:44 AM

Re: Bladewind/Gift of Heaven/Falling Frost questions
 
Re: Bladewind - I don't know. See the "Forum and manual interaction" thread.

Re: Mistform - I don't know, but if any creature with less than 25 hp has ever lost Mistform while fighting against normal units, it can't be 25 hp.

Corwin December 18th, 2006 08:50 AM

Re: Bladewind/Gift of Heaven/Falling Frost questions
 
Quote:

Endoperez said:
Re: Bladewind - I don't know. See the "Forum and manual interaction" thread.



Link pls?

Quote:


Re: Mistform - I don't know, but if any creature with less than 25 hp has ever lost Mistform while fighting against normal units, it can't be 25 hp.

Actualy it can, since manual also said that mistform has 1% chance per turn of dispelling by itself.


OK, so 2 of my question remains -

1.Does anybody knows if Arrow Fend spell protects against Bladewind? (80% protection due to "air shield" effect I mean)

2. Is manual wrong about "Mistform", where it says that to dispel it damage from a single blow must be higher than 25HP, rather than higher than 25 % of target's HPs?

calmon December 18th, 2006 09:24 AM

Re: Bladewind/Gift of Heaven/Falling Frost questio
 
1. In my test the mage didn't cast a scripted Arrow Fend. Maybe because there are no attacking archers, only the bladewind casters. So i think it doesn't work. In my oppinion it should work. There should be an active counter vs. bladewind, the counter shouldn't be just a good protection.

Agrajag December 18th, 2006 10:04 AM

Re: Bladewind/Gift of Heaven/Falling Frost questio
 
Well, there are protection boosting spells.

Twan December 18th, 2006 10:07 AM

Re: Bladewind/Gift of Heaven/Falling Frost questio
 
Bladewind also cost 80 fatigue, so except if a pretender / very powerful mage cast it any spell increasing fatigue may be seen as a counter.


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