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Dimitry December 20th, 2006 12:28 PM

Bullpups
 
Hello to everybody!

I've played a 1962 scenario as USA and noticed that USMC has a F4J Fury, carrying Bullpap "air-to-ground" missiles.
And that F4J Fury can engage the small armored targets (f.e. tanks)with Bullpups with 90% accuracy!
But this was found on the net http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif
"....The AGM-12B was a cheap and relatively crude weapon, not really very much advanced from the guided weapons used by the Germans during WW II. It was a sleek rocket, with small pneumatically-operated cruciform control fins on the nose and larger fixed cruciform fins on the tail.
The AGM-12B was roll-stabilized, optically guided, and controlled over a radio link, much as the German weapons had been. It had two flares in the tail to allow the operator to track it while using a joystick to keep it lined up through the aircraft's gunsight...."
Here is the link
http://www.vectorsite.net/twbomb_07.html#m1
Regarding all said above I dont think that in 1962 AGM-12B Bullpups can effectively engage small targets, such as tanks, armored cars, guns etc.
Any comments on this subject? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Mobhack December 20th, 2006 03:35 PM

Re: Bullpups
 
Yep - the version in the Nigerian OOB has a much more believable accuracy for that weapon system (1).

cheers
Andy

Sewter December 20th, 2006 06:29 PM

Re: Bullpups
 
While I agree that the Bullpup should not be given an accuracy of 90%, I do not think that an accuracy of 1% is proper either. Perhaps below 50% above 20% may be considered. Particularly if you take in mind the many varieties of upgraded systems. Below is another link to review:

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-12.html

I like the one with a '1-15 kT W-45 nuclear fission warhead'. I would imagine that with such a warhead, accuracy wouldn't matter much! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Dimitry December 21st, 2006 11:39 AM

Re: Bullpups
 
That is absolutely right - the Bullpup should be given 30-35% accuracy, while I still have some doubts about small targets.
Anyway, as far as I remember, the only example of successful use of Bullpup was destruction of the bridge in Viet Nam.


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