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Xietor February 19th, 2007 10:22 AM

Getting Heroes to appear
 
I am assuming heroes appearing at your gate are a random event. Typically I use an Order 1 dominion, and set random events on rare.

Some long games go by with me only getting 1 hero, even though i am getting many random events due to map size. Would taking luck 1 help significantly getting heroes to appear?

Hadrian_II February 19th, 2007 10:41 AM

Re: Getting Heroes to appear
 
Afaik you have a chance of 3% per turn to get a hero and your luck scale modify this chance --> per point of luck or missfortune +- 1%. So if you have Missfortune 3 you never get your heroes.

Endoperez February 19th, 2007 10:44 AM

Re: Getting Heroes to appear
 
Luck directly affects the change of a hero appearing. I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but it's something like 3% chance for a hero to appear each turn, +/- 1 per Luck scale. Taking Misfortune 3 makes heroes unavailable, and taking Luck 3 makes them twice as likely to appear.

However, even with Luck, you might get unlucky and not get many heroes even in a long game.

If you want to see heroes, I suggest playing with more default settings and taking Luck 3. It doesn't produce quite as reliable income as Order, so you might end upo a bit tight on money in the early game, but all the events add up very nicely in my experience. Many other players' opinions are quite different, though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

solo February 19th, 2007 12:05 PM

Re: Getting Heroes to appear
 
Whenever I play with Luck +3 I always get heroes appearing early and often.

Ironhawk February 19th, 2007 03:55 PM

Re: Getting Heroes to appear
 
Make sure you play with the Worthy Heroes Mod too. Then, when you actually do get a hero, you are really psyched!

NTJedi February 19th, 2007 07:09 PM

Re: Getting Heroes to appear
 
Quote:

Ironhawk said:
Make sure you play with the Worthy Heroes Mod too. Then, when you actually do get a hero, you are really psyched!

I agree many of the default heroes in DOM_3... are not really heroes.

Turin February 19th, 2007 07:45 PM

Re: Getting Heroes to appear
 
Quite a lot of nations only have one or even no heroes.
I made a list of heroes in the worthy heroes thread, so maybe you canīt even get a hero if you play oceania for example.

Even if you have a nation with lots of heroes the chance for a hero to appear is really random. I made quite a lot of 400+ turns testgames and even with luck3 it can take 100+ turns until a hero shows up.
In addition it seems as if the chance to get a hero is less than 6% with luck 3 or there are some other modifiers, since no nation got more than the expected one hero per 16 turns and most got significantly less.

Gandalf Parker February 19th, 2007 07:54 PM

Re: Getting Heroes to appear
 
Most of the heroes are heroes more in the RPG sense than in the SC (SuperCombatants) sense. They definetly arent Super Heroes.

Meglobob February 19th, 2007 08:49 PM

Re: Getting Heroes to appear
 
Playing MA Ermor, I got the hero who is Ermors executioner, he has a weapon which sends victims to hell, the inferno I think.

However, he is a 8 hp mage! So groovy weapon made utterly useless, as he wouldn't survive in melee very long, even if I kitted him out with magic items galore.

This is rather sad. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Wish February 19th, 2007 09:04 PM

Re: Getting Heroes to appear
 
you could empower him up to 6 astral (9 with items) and have him wish for power... that'd make him more survivable...


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