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stecal June 12th, 2001 03:15 PM

Turn order in Strategic Combat
 
What determines who moves first in strategic combat? It seems like my ships always go second no matter whether I iniatiated combat or not. This is especially painfull at warp points where my carriers often get blown up by enemy fire before they even get to launch their fighters. I am player 8 of 8 in a multiplayer, simultaneous game and I would hate to discover that is why I go Last

Lemmy June 12th, 2001 03:59 PM

Re: Turn order in Strategic Combat
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brainsucker:
... I am player 8 of 8 in a multiplayer, simultaneous game and I would hate to discover that is why I go Last<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
sorry, but i think that's exactly why you always start Last.



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liga June 12th, 2001 04:02 PM

Re: Turn order in Strategic Combat
 
I hope that this things will be fixed soon ....

Liga

Jubala June 12th, 2001 05:17 PM

Re: Turn order in Strategic Combat
 
Yep, that kind of sucks. Means the enemy will always get in the first shot at warp points both when you are defending and attacking. Painful.

CaptSpoogy June 12th, 2001 05:32 PM

Re: Turn order in Strategic Combat
 
I think it would be a lot better if the attacking empire would get the first move always.

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Taqwus June 12th, 2001 05:44 PM

Re: Turn order in Strategic Combat
 
How about individual ship initiative, taking into account +hit bonus (which includes hull type, sensors, racial attributes, experience, and other modifiers), plus perhaps a modifier for traversing a warp point (perhaps a bonus to the defender), plus a random factor?

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mac5732 June 12th, 2001 08:18 PM

Re: Turn order in Strategic Combat
 
I disagree with the part about warp points. When you go thru one you never know what is on the other side. therefore when you go thru and the other player has defenses set up on warp point it only makes sense that he would get lst shot. That's why you should send in scout see what defenses and their strenght before you send thru your fleet. This forces you to reorganize your fleets to meet and defeat his defenses. As for reg combat in systems, I always notice that it doesn't matter who fires first, its who moves into range lst. Therefore who comes in range lst, fires first. I would suggest you use tactical at least for large or important battles that way you could move so you always would get the lst shot.

just some ideas mac

Dravis June 12th, 2001 08:28 PM

Re: Turn order in Strategic Combat
 
You can't use tatical combat in simultaneous games.

Will June 13th, 2001 12:02 AM

Re: Turn order in Strategic Combat
 
Not to mention the fact that it's a multiplayer, so still no TC.

Paranoid Android June 13th, 2001 03:41 AM

Re: Turn order in Strategic Combat
 
This is really bad news. It means that all those fire once every 3-4 turn shield/armor skipping weapons will rip the guts out of your ships if you both start in close proximity as usuall at a warp point.


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