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Nappa April 25th, 2007 06:11 PM

My immortal phoenix died of a disease??
 
is this a bug?

PvK April 25th, 2007 06:20 PM

Re: My immortal phoenix died of a disease??
 
Need more details of what happened.

In general, no, immortality just means your body is immediately recreated without loss of magic paths back to your capital if your body is slain in your own dominion, and that you eventually heal afflictions. It doesn't mean your body can't die from a disease, or an ax, or anything else...

Graeme Dice April 25th, 2007 07:10 PM

Re: My immortal phoenix died of a disease??
 
It's a bug that's been around for a long time. If any immortal unit is killed by a disease, then that unit is permanently gone, no matter what the local dominion is.

Baalz April 25th, 2007 08:28 PM

Re: My immortal phoenix died of a disease??
 
Yeah, I guess that would make sense since they would still be diseased and not healing, so they'd be resurrected with 0 hp.

Sombre April 25th, 2007 09:53 PM

Re: My immortal phoenix died of a disease??
 
I don't think you can call that a bug. Seems like WAD.

I don't agree with it, but there you go.

Jazzepi April 25th, 2007 11:30 PM

Re: My immortal phoenix died of a disease??
 
Sounds like a bug to me. If a phoenix dies from a disease, how is that any different than dying from an axe to the face? Their bodies are reborn.

Diseased is an affliction anyways, and immortal units are suppose to heal afflictions.

Jazzepi

Nix April 26th, 2007 12:00 AM

Re: My immortal phoenix died of a disease??
 
I think it's pretty silly that pretenders keep afflictions even beyond death anyways... but that's just me.

Juzza April 26th, 2007 01:02 AM

Re: My immortal phoenix died of a disease??
 
I agree, easpicaly with immortal units, since with immortal units their body is reforming, liches, they get a new body, not a build of their old one, keeping aflictions is silly, however calling a god back, thats a little different, I think they should keep it through that.

Edi April 26th, 2007 01:04 AM

Re: My immortal phoenix died of a disease??
 
Quote:

Graeme Dice said:
It's a bug that's been around for a long time. If any immortal unit is killed by a disease, then that unit is permanently gone, no matter what the local dominion is.

First that I heard of it. Are the mechanics different from Dom2? In Dom2, if a diseased immortal unit died, it came back the next turn and promptly died again and again until the disease affliction disappeared on respawning.

Does it work the same or has disease been made a non-triggering cause of death? If it's changed, it needs to be shortlisted immediately, but I've not seen this mentioned before.

PvK April 26th, 2007 03:03 AM

Re: My immortal phoenix died of a disease??
 
Hmm, I think immortality is sillier than gods keeping afflictions, and keeping afflictions (sometimes) seems more interesting for play that having them all always vanish. But getting permanently removed by a disease seems like a bug.


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