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Velusion June 9th, 2007 01:34 PM

Global Ritual Questions
 
Some late game global ritual questions:

1. I heard that the most gems you can ever put into a global is 999 - is that true? Does that include the base cost of the spell?

2. I know ritual casting sites (e.g. Conjuration 20) discount the initial ritual spell cost - do they have any effect on the extra gems spent to boost the power of the spell?

3. When casting global spells I know each level above the minimum boosts the strength of the spell by 5. Do magic boosting items you are wearing affect this - or does it only look at your innate ability in the magic path?

Any help ASAP would be greatly apperciated!

lch June 9th, 2007 02:16 PM

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Velusion said:
Some late game global ritual questions:

1. I heard that the most gems you can ever put into a global is 999 - is that true? Does that include the base cost of the spell?

True, including base gem cost.

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Velusion said:
2. I know ritual casting sites (e.g. Conjuration 20) discount the initial ritual spell cost - do they have any effect on the extra gems spent to boost the power of the spell?

The game was bugged that the extra gems only count if you exceed the normal gem cost without any bonus. I don't think that it's fixed yet. So boni for summons and one-shot spells are good, for globals they're not really useful.

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Velusion said:
3. When casting global spells I know each level above the minimum boosts the strength of the spell by 5. Do magic boosting items you are wearing affect this - or does it only look at your innate ability in the magic path?

Didn't we talk about this in the Eventide game? I am not sure, I think somebody claimed that the base level counts towards it. You might want to whip up a quick test game to confirm it.

Velusion June 9th, 2007 02:21 PM

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lch said:
The game was bugged that the extra gems only count if you exceed the normal gem cost without any bonus.

Not sure I understand exactly what you mean by "bonus".

Methel June 9th, 2007 02:26 PM

Re: Global Ritual Questions
 
the casting discount from sites

Velusion June 9th, 2007 02:41 PM

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Methel said:
the casting discount from sites

I suppose I wanted to know - in the above example - if I put in 200 gems into the 100 base cost global on a ritual casting (20) site, would I be reinforcing the site with 120 gems, 100 gems or some other number?

Please include how confident you are of your answer as well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

lch June 9th, 2007 03:05 PM

Re: Global Ritual Questions
 
With 100 gems AFAIK. Pretty confident. Just whip up a quick test game to confirm it.

Velusion June 9th, 2007 03:22 PM

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lch said:
With 100 gems AFAIK. Pretty confident. Just whip up a quick test game to confirm it.

A lot easier said than done - especially since the dispel/replace mechanism involves some luck.

Micah June 9th, 2007 06:35 PM

Re: Global Ritual Questions
 
it's only one OE die though, overcoming even a 20 gem differential would be less than a 1% chance.

Velusion June 9th, 2007 06:39 PM

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Micah said:
it's only one OE die though, overcoming even a 20 gem differential would be less than a 1% chance.

20 gem difference = 4 levels of disparity caused by item magic boosters... I don't have a game I can whip up to replicate that scenario.


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