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Baalz July 10th, 2007 08:19 AM

eye shield
 
Does anyone know the mechanics of how the eye loss works? Specifically if you know you're going up against somebody with an eye shield what do you use to counter it? MR? Strong helmet? High defense?

Foodstamp July 10th, 2007 10:22 AM

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TwoBits July 10th, 2007 11:42 AM

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Is Foodstamp suggesting that you order your troops to close their eyes and smile when in combat?

Or is he the one who's working you over with the eye shield? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Baalz July 10th, 2007 11:51 AM

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Both. ;P

Xietor July 10th, 2007 12:01 PM

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Eye shields do not work on the great wyrm, maybe because he has 2 heads?

Other than that, it works on anything that has eyes(ie not blind).

MR really does not help much, as I blind vans with it and they have good mr. Though i will say vans still have a high attack with the loss of just 1 eye. Both eyes out though, and their attack is reduced to attack 0.

It is a good shield. One drawback, it offers no protection from fire, and does not deal damage, like the charcoal shield, or give luck like the lucky coin. So it is a good shield, but like anything else, it is better against some enemies than others.

Shovah32 July 10th, 2007 12:05 PM

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If it dosnt work on wyrms then it could be MR related as a pretenders 18 magic resistance(along with him not making a huge number of attacks) tends to protect them from alot of unboosted magics(mindburn cast by 1 or 2 S2 mages for example) and while they can still take damage(squads of bandar Rishis soul slaying my enemies E9 regenerating cyclops for example) they are generally safe from a few basic MR tests.

MaxWilson July 10th, 2007 12:27 PM

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Vans have high MR, so if it works well against them I suspect it's not based on MR.

-Max

Xietor July 10th, 2007 01:06 PM

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Eyeshield is not great against spiders, as it gives them an affliction "lost some eyes" and if memory serves, was not that substantial a detriment. The clear implication was it still saw well enough with its remaining eyes to hit you quite well.

lch July 10th, 2007 01:28 PM

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Quote:

Xietor said:
Eyeshield is not great against spiders, as it gives them an affliction "lost some eyes"

Yes, Wyrms and other critters only get the affliction "Lost some eyes", regardless how many eyes they lose. They never turn blind from eyeloss. I think I already reported that as a bug.

TwoBits July 10th, 2007 02:39 PM

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Maybe there needs to be a second step for multiple-eyed creatures - "lost some more eyes". Then a third, obvious step - "lost all your eyes". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif


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