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Cor2 September 10th, 2007 04:42 AM

? about stolen units
 
i could test these but it would take alot time...

So does anybody know regarding charmed/seduced/enslaved units/commanders:

1. When you steal a commander that its previous owner has cast twiceborn and it dies in your dominion, does it become a wright? or if it dies in the opponents dominion does it become a wright under thier control?

2. When you steal someones prohet can they annoint a new prohet if the stolen one is still alive?

3. Do you have to pay upkeep, does the original owner have to pay upkeep, or is there no upkeep?

4. When a stolen hall of fame hero dies can you ritual of rebirth it or can the origional owner ritual of rebirth it?

5. Why does a stolen prohet retain the prophet label, icon and sacred but not the preist lv3?

Micah September 10th, 2007 04:49 AM

Re: ? about stolen units
 
I believe 2 is a yes, based on Rlyeh's insanity allowing multi-prophets. I think the prophet command is available 6 months after you don't control any prophets, as opposed to tracking unit number. I may be mistaken.

Upkeep is almost certainly the current controller's problem.

I believe RoR is targetted based on the nationality they're filed under in the HoF, so you should be able to Rebirth them if they died under your control.

No idea on 1 and 5. I'm really surprised they'd lose priest levels from that, actually.

Evilhomer September 10th, 2007 06:06 AM

Re: ? about stolen units
 
When you enslave a mage or similar expensive unit, you basically get an ordinary unit with very high upkeep. Place these in the frontlines ... (unless you plan on GoR it).

atul September 10th, 2007 07:10 AM

Re: ? about stolen units
 
And it should be noted that the game has no memory - GoR an enslaved former HoFer, and he won't regain his rightful place. Experience is retained, apparently the kills zero at enslavement. Guess there's innocence in ignorance after all.

Edi September 10th, 2007 08:16 AM

Re: ? about stolen units
 
GoRed enslaved units also get their magic reset, so they may get a completely different pick of randoms than they originally had.


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