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justjake73 July 12th, 2001 12:10 AM

AI Ships and Bad Warp Points
 
I avoid damaging warp points and black hole sytems like the plague for obv. reasons. In every game I've played a small AI ship gets stuck in a damaging warp point after passing through a BH system. Is this a bug? Shouldn't they eventually be crushed and destroyed? Doesn't the damage accumulate from these wps?

Alpha Kodiak July 12th, 2001 12:32 AM

Re: AI Ships and Bad Warp Points
 
What you are probably seeing is an AI ship with its movement reduced to 2. It will keep being sucked toward the center then try to get out, always winding up back at the warp point. If this is true, then eventually it will run out of supplies and be sucked into the black hole.

In general, the AI has a horrible time with damaging warp points because it doesn't understand that it needs to avoid them. I've watch large fleets of AI ships go through the warp points, then send the ships that got hurt back through since those ships now need to be resupplied.

The best thing you can do for the AI is eliminate black holes in the QuadrantTypes file.

justjake73 July 12th, 2001 12:35 AM

Re: AI Ships and Bad Warp Points
 
The ships I have seen are actually on the non-BH side of the WP. They just stay there. I guess they overextended their supply and and their engines are too damaged. They have no movement left!

Spoo July 12th, 2001 01:02 AM

Re: AI Ships and Bad Warp Points
 
It'd be nice to have an "abandon ship" option under scrap/retrofit for cases like this. It would work like setting the delf destruct device off on a ship that has one. You could argue that it would ruin the strategy of disabling enemy ships, but when you think about it, what empire in their right collective-minds would spend resources on a ship that's stranded on the far side of the galaxy w/ zero or one movement left. How do the resources spent on maintenace benefit this ship?

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Sinapus July 12th, 2001 05:14 AM

Re: AI Ships and Bad Warp Points
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alpha Kodiak:
What you are probably seeing is an AI ship with its movement reduced to 2. It will keep being sucked toward the center then try to get out, always winding up back at the warp point. If this is true, then eventually it will run out of supplies and be sucked into the black hole.

In general, the AI has a horrible time with damaging warp points because it doesn't understand that it needs to avoid them. I've watch large fleets of AI ships go through the warp points, then send the ships that got hurt back through since those ships now need to be resupplied.

The best thing you can do for the AI is eliminate black holes in the QuadrantTypes file.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Or just go into the StellarAbilities file and change the damage for unstable warp points from 200 to 0. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

justjake73 July 12th, 2001 06:08 AM

Re: AI Ships and Bad Warp Points
 
Can you do that for a game already in progress?

Suicide Junkie July 13th, 2001 01:39 AM

Re: AI Ships and Bad Warp Points
 
No. It only affects how the game generates the map at the beginning of a game.
Your saved maps do not change.

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