New Finnish OOB
 

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Wow, thanks a lot Zipuli:)!!! I must check this "mod" right now...

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I had a peak to see what you had done because it seems every Finn interested in SP has had a hand in modifying the MBT and WW2 Finn OOBs at one time or another. I'm starting to think it's a national pastime http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I'm just curious. This is the standard rank series

Private
PFC or L/Cpl
Corporal
Sergeant
2nd Lt.
1st Lt.
Captain
Major
Lt. Col.
Colonel
General

that's the order the game uses to assign leaders in the game.

Now...... NOBODY but another Finn ( and me ) would notice this

Sotamies
Korpr.
Alik.
Kers.
Vanrikki
Ltn.
Ylil.
Kapteeni
Majuri
EvLtn.
Eversti

.....but why did you make the "Captain" a 1st Lt, the "Major" a Captain, the "Lt Col" a Major, the "Colonel" a Lt Col and the "General" a Colonel ?

Don

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Yeah, it's a national pastime. Something with the Finns and the turn-based wargames I guess... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I changed the tanks to get correct leader ranks in correct formations. It's because we added one rank extra compared to "the norm" back in the day (which will be removed from use in near future). We added a rank called in english "senior lieutenant", which is bewteen a lt. and cpt.

Due to this new rank, the basic leaders for formations are (using translations here):

Corporal (Alik.) = Section
2nd Lt. (Vänrikki) = platoon
Lieutenant (Ltn.) = platoon-company
Senior Lieutenant (Ylil.) = company
Captain = battalion
Major = battalion-battlegroup
etc.

So, because of this I did not put the ranks as high as general and generals in the Finnish system don't command anything we would see in SPMBT. So it's not in line with the basic US/such rank file for that reason. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I hope I made sense there,

Zip

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Please if you find bugs etc. do tell, and I get them fixed...

so far I fixed/added/changed following:
-ITO 96 Buk is no longer areal SAM, but SP-SAM (icon fixed), and has its own formations in misc. section
-BTR-60PB dates corrected (formations also)
-MLRS with ATACMS (M39) fixed (ammo quantity + type from HE-> CM)
-APILAS expire dates fixed (don't know when that will happen, but I use the guess of 2013...)
-to replace the APILAS I have added a "what if" AT weapon, the AT-4HP (Swedish pskott m/86HP) as NLAWs will most likely not be numerous enough to equip more than the operational units (which leaves only some 250000 to equip http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
-AT-4 patrols and Urban/PzJaegers with AT-4 added as options
-added Super Puma chopper (used by the border guard, 3 in use)
-fixed AB206 dates (goes now up to 2010)
-added 95 S 58-61 Musti unit with LRF (handheld) from 2000 ->
-SPAA platoons (2/3) expired the wrong way round... SPAA Plt/3 now lasts untill 2020, while SPAA Plt/2 goes to history in 2007...
-122 Rakh 89 now has double the ammunition as it should as the vehicle has 2 salvos, 1 ready to fire and second one carried by the vehicle itself and changed quickly by a hydraulic reload device
-Off-map AMOS ROF from 12->15
-new pictures: ITO 2005 (better one), Rann-Ohj 06, MLRS with ATACMS, Super Puma, AB206, AT-4, Rakh 89 platoon)
-added some 40 text files

New version released when enough testing and bug hunting is done.

EDIT:
-Landsverk Anti II icon changed to appropriate one
-Added 7.62 RK +Optics -weapon (represents RK 62 and 95 models with added optical equipment) - main users being Urban Jaegers, some later Paratroopers and Special Jaegers (other troops also use extra optics, but they are dispersed so that in section 1 guy may have extra optics, so the original iron sight weapon is more appropriate here!)
-"reserve company" (representing all those ad-hoc units like Artillery Bn's "torjuntaosasto" etc.) organization changed (HMGs removed prior to NSV)

Zip

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^^ Hey Zipuli, but how about brigade generals;)...

Sorry, this is not SP3:)!

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Good work there Zipuli! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Hey do the AI know how to use this also or is it just for human play?

One thing you can fix is the icon for the Landsverk AA tank it still uses in your version the US wolverine TD icon when in the official 3.5 version it has its own neat icon number 2582.
Your LBM for the landsverk however is correct while in the official 3.5 version it uses some strange picture which is not Landsverk Anti http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif !

Heh maybe the devs should change the unit LBM picture for the next patch to use the picture you have for it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Oh thanks for the tip - as always I did search the default OOB for any icons (like the AMOS), but missed that one!

The AI "picklist" is not finished yet for this mod, so the AI will buy quite funny stuff at times http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Zip

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Not sure if it's something with my Russian OOB or not but most of the units in the scenarios with the Russians/Soviets are not displayed correctly. For example mech squads show up as tanks, etc. I looked in Mobhack and the correct icons are assigned to infantry. Is anyone else having this issue?

BTW
I really like the Finnish OOB. Thanks