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triqui March 31st, 2008 12:57 PM

construction sites
 
Do the construction bonus sites have the discount bonus to forge magic items? or just ritual spells (such as golems and the like)?

Folket March 31st, 2008 12:59 PM

Re: construction sites
 
If you found a construction site, surly you can try and tell us.

Endoperez March 31st, 2008 12:59 PM

Re: construction sites
 
IIRC, it also affects forging.

triqui March 31st, 2008 01:02 PM

Re: construction sites
 
Quote:

Folket said:
If you found a construction site, surly you can try and tell us.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

The point was knowing if it works BEFORE i spend 500gols in a lab+possible a castle there.

Thankyou Endoperez http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Im a happier man now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif

Wyatt Hebert March 31st, 2008 01:09 PM

Re: construction sites
 
Agreed. Last time I checked, Construction sites affect forging costs.

As an aside, the game rounds costs down, so if you can manage to drop an item's cost below 1 gem, it will be free.

That is all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Wyat

vfb March 31st, 2008 07:21 PM

Re: construction sites
 
Not only that, it's some weird additive formula for the discounts.

To forge a 10-gem item at the Steel Ovens (20%), with a hammer (25%), it costs 5 gems.

Maybe something like this is how it works?

Discount = (10 * .2) + (10 * .25) = 4.5, round up to 5

10 - Discount = 10 - 5 = 5

Edit: no, that's wrong, please see below.

OmikronWarrior March 31st, 2008 08:56 PM

Re: construction sites
 
I thought the formula was for most cases mulplicitive, and not additive? There might be an exception for innate forge bonuses, but otherwise:

10*.8*.75

vfb March 31st, 2008 09:05 PM

Re: construction sites
 
I just tested it. Dwarven Hammer, Steel Ovens. Cost to forge a skull staff there is 5 gems. Your formula gives 6 gems, and that's not what it costs.

Valerius April 1st, 2008 01:16 AM

Re: construction sites
 
I think the hammer/forge bonus (Ulmish smith, etc.) is applied first and then the bonus from the site/FotA is applied. So, the 25% discount from the hammer brings it down to 7 gems and then a 20% discount is applied to that, bringing the final cost to 5 gems.

I also remember reading that the minimum cost for an item is 1 gem.

vfb April 1st, 2008 03:35 AM

Re: construction sites
 
Oh, okay, I see:

floor(floor( 10 * .75 ) * .8) = 5.

That works too, and makes more sense given the forge costs when FotA is up. Works for a 5-gem item too:

floor(floor( 5 * .75 ) * .8) = 2. That's the cost at the 80% site of a Bane Blade, wielding a 75% hammer.


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