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Executor August 27th, 2008 01:21 PM

Damage death?
 
Soul slay is supposed to be damage death, but it isn't it is 999.
This I found out by trying to slay a Sphinx with 1000+ health that couldn't be killed differently with body etherial and luck and 30+ protection.
So after about 20-30 failed attempts one lucky soul slay strikes but he's still alive?
Would this mean that it can't be mind hunted since slay can't kill in first shot?

Feel free to share interesting situations like this one.

konming August 27th, 2008 01:23 PM

Re: Damage death?
 
It's a known issue. You can cast 30 shatters on him and he should be done.

K August 27th, 2008 03:14 PM

Re: Damage death?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Executor (Post 634607)
Soul slay is supposed to be damage death, but it isn't it is 999.
This I found out by trying to slay a Sphinx with 1000+ health that couldn't be killed differently with body etherial and luck and 30+ protection.
So after about 20-30 failed attempts one lucky soul slay strikes but he's still alive?
Would this mean that it can't be mind hunted since slay can't kill in first shot?

Feel free to share interesting situations like this one.

He can be Mind Hunted. It just means that two successful Mind Hunts are needed.

This is because damage is healed at a certain point in the turn, so if you cast multiple rituals that damage enemies you can partially damage a unit with one ritual and then kill them with the next since it all takes place during the Ritual phase.

Edi August 28th, 2008 03:15 AM

Re: Damage death?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K (Post 634657)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Executor (Post 634607)
Soul slay is supposed to be damage death, but it isn't it is 999.
This I found out by trying to slay a Sphinx with 1000+ health that couldn't be killed differently with body etherial and luck and 30+ protection.
So after about 20-30 failed attempts one lucky soul slay strikes but he's still alive?
Would this mean that it can't be mind hunted since slay can't kill in first shot?

Feel free to share interesting situations like this one.

He can be Mind Hunted. It just means that two successful Mind Hunts are needed.

This is because damage is healed at a certain point in the turn, so if you cast multiple rituals that damage enemies you can partially damage a unit with one ritual and then kill them with the next since it all takes place during the Ritual phase.

Mind hunt a sphinx? You've got to be kidding me! The thing has astral magic natively, so any mind hunter who tries gets feebleminded.

Jazzepi August 28th, 2008 05:48 AM

Re: Damage death?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edi (Post 634798)
Quote:

Originally Posted by K (Post 634657)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Executor (Post 634607)
Soul slay is supposed to be damage death, but it isn't it is 999.
This I found out by trying to slay a Sphinx with 1000+ health that couldn't be killed differently with body etherial and luck and 30+ protection.
So after about 20-30 failed attempts one lucky soul slay strikes but he's still alive?
Would this mean that it can't be mind hunted since slay can't kill in first shot?

Feel free to share interesting situations like this one.

He can be Mind Hunted. It just means that two successful Mind Hunts are needed.

This is because damage is healed at a certain point in the turn, so if you cast multiple rituals that damage enemies you can partially damage a unit with one ritual and then kill them with the next since it all takes place during the Ritual phase.

Mind hunt a sphinx? You've got to be kidding me! The thing has astral magic natively, so any mind hunter who tries gets feebleminded.

Not any. There's a chance it gets through without the hunter getting damaged.

Jazzepi

Edi August 28th, 2008 06:10 AM

Re: Damage death?
 
Yes, there's a chance, but it isn't very good from what I've seen.

Jazzepi August 28th, 2008 06:18 AM

Re: Damage death?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edi (Post 634809)
Yes, there's a chance, but it isn't very good from what I've seen.

I believe it's 20%.

Jazzepi

Tifone August 28th, 2008 06:18 AM

Re: Damage death?
 
Well the Sphynx starts at S3, so if the chance of cutting the chord of the mind hunter really is 40% * S level, as stated by the manual, you don't have a chance ^_^

But a Black Bow of Botulf, and it becomes just an useless and cumbersome piece of rock in a square ^_^

Jazzepi August 28th, 2008 06:22 AM

Re: Damage death?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tifone (Post 634811)
Well the Sphynx starts at S3, so if the chance of cutting the chord of the mind hunter really is 40% * S level, as stated by the manual, you don't have a chance ^_^

But a Black Bow of Botulf, and it becomes just an useless and cumbersome piece of rock in a square ^_^

Really? I thought it was just a straight percentage chance.

Oh well. I mean, it's not really a legit strategy to try to mind hunt astral SCs D:

Jazzepi

ano August 28th, 2008 06:23 AM

Re: Damage death?
 
Anyway from what I know it is never possible to mindhunt an astral mage.
Am I wrong?


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