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Epaminondas October 7th, 2008 05:57 PM

One Battle Spell questions:
 
Does the spell cast even if:

1. You don't have the spell researched?

2. You don't have the path requirement, even if the spell has been researched?

3. You don't have the requisite gems, even if you have met both the path and research requirements?

Deadnature October 7th, 2008 08:53 PM

Re: One Battle Spell questions:
 
1: research is completed before the battle-phase. So, if you finish researching a spell "that" turn AND you script your mages to "cast spells" or no script at all (or their scripted spells run out before the battle ends), then there is a chance that said mages will casts the newly researched spells.

2: If you don't have the path requirement, then you can't cast the spell. Unless, of course, you use gems to boost an existing path, or you use a communion to boost your mages' paths. Check the manual.

3: If a spell has a gem cost, then your mage needs to have the required gems in his inventory, I think that if the mages ability is greater then the spells required path, then you get a cost reduction if the gem cost is greater than 1-- not sure about this one though.

Epaminondas October 7th, 2008 10:36 PM

Re: One Battle Spell questions:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadnature (Post 643785)
1: research is completed before the battle-phase. So, if you finish researching a spell "that" turn AND you script your mages to "cast spells" or no script at all (or their scripted spells run out before the battle ends), then there is a chance that said mages will casts the newly researched spells.

2: If you don't have the path requirement, then you can't cast the spell. Unless, of course, you use gems to boost an existing path, or you use a communion to boost your mages' paths. Check the manual.

3: If a spell has a gem cost, then your mage needs to have the required gems in his inventory, I think that if the mages ability is greater then the spells required path, then you get a cost reduction if the gem cost is greater than 1-- not sure about this one though.

Deadnature,

You may have misunderstood my question. Or perhaps I misunderstood your reply.

I do recognize that you need to have a spell researched, path levels met, and gems in possession (if the spell requires them) in order to cast spells.

But I was not referring to such ordinary circumstances but the "onebattlespell" (or something like that) command you give to a particular unit when you mod units.

Deadnature October 7th, 2008 11:18 PM

Re: One Battle Spell questions:
 
oh, yeah I did misunderstand your question. :)

Endoperez October 8th, 2008 01:36 AM

Re: One Battle Spell questions:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Epaminondas (Post 643737)
Does the spell cast even if:

1. You don't have the spell researched?

2. You don't have the path requirement, even if the spell has been researched?

3. You don't have the requisite gems, even if you have met both the path and research requirements?

Get a Mandaha, somehow. They autocast Darkness. I prefer to use my testmod, which makes Wish and Gift of Reason researchlevel 0, path 1, 1-gem rituals. IIRC, the mod goes like this:

#modname "testmod"
#selectspell "Wish"
#fatiguecost 100
#researchlevel 0
#path 0 1
#end
#selectspell "Gift of Reason"
#fatiguecost 100
#researchlevel 0
#path 0 1
#end



This is what I suspect will happen: A single Mandaha without any equipment or gems brought into battle will cast it into Darkness, even if you haven't researched anything but Blood.

Aezeal October 8th, 2008 07:32 AM

Re: One Battle Spell questions:
 
I wonder about the path requirement though..

lch October 8th, 2008 07:36 AM

Re: One Battle Spell questions:
 
Moving this to the Mods subforum.

Edratman October 8th, 2008 09:46 AM

Re: One Battle Spell questions:
 
I haven't researched or tested #onebattlespell extensively, but I do know it will cast without research. I have avoided using spells that require gems or higher level because of that.

Sombre October 8th, 2008 09:49 AM

Re: One Battle Spell questions:
 
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes

A #onebattlespell will always cast.

Aezeal October 8th, 2008 10:49 AM

Re: One Battle Spell questions:
 
But holy spells are different right? My fanatasicm didn't work on a creation of mine I seem to remember.


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