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RERomine November 10th, 2008 10:02 PM

M3 Grant/Lee Tanks
 
Has anyone noticed on the 75mm sponson mount on the M3 Grant/Lee tanks are on the wrong side? In the game, they are on the left side of the tank, when in reality they were on the right side?

Just an observation and not worth changing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_tank

Mobhack November 10th, 2008 10:24 PM

Re: M3 Grant/Lee Tanks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RERomine (Post 651603)
Has anyone noticed on the 75mm sponson mount on the M3 Grant/Lee tanks are on the wrong side? In the game, they are on the left side of the tank, when in reality they were on the right side?

Just an observation and not worth changing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_tank

That is the way the VFX graphics engine displays items, it mirror images certain rotations for speed (I think). Was like that in DOS and in the WinVFX engine too.It has always been like this, and every 5 years or so someone actually notices :)!

So which side the gun is on depends entirely on the facing angle. Try buying some and rotating them 360 degrees in the deployment screen and watch the sponson flip sides!.

Andy

RERomine November 10th, 2008 10:50 PM

Re: M3 Grant/Lee Tanks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobhack (Post 651605)

That is the way the VFX graphics engine displays items, it mirror images certain rotations for speed (I think). Was like that in DOS and in the WinVFX engine too.It has always been like this, and every 5 years or so someone actually notices :)!

So which side the gun is on depends entirely on the facing angle. Try buying some and rotating them 360 degrees in the deployment screen and watch the sponson flip sides!.

Andy

I've been looking at it for years in SP games and didn't notice. Long before that, I use to have the AH Tobruk game. The firing arc for the sponson mount was a real pain in that game. That's the only reason I thought of it tonight. I hadn't noticed it moved from side to side, either. No reason to, I suppose. Most tanks are symmetrical enough to not even notice and it certainly doesn't matter.

thatguy96 November 11th, 2008 10:14 AM

Re: M3 Grant/Lee Tanks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RERomine (Post 651609)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobhack (Post 651605)

That is the way the VFX graphics engine displays items, it mirror images certain rotations for speed (I think). Was like that in DOS and in the WinVFX engine too.It has always been like this, and every 5 years or so someone actually notices :)!

So which side the gun is on depends entirely on the facing angle. Try buying some and rotating them 360 degrees in the deployment screen and watch the sponson flip sides!.

Andy

I've been looking at it for years in SP games and didn't notice. Long before that, I use to have the AH Tobruk game. The firing arc for the sponson mount was a real pain in that game. That's the only reason I thought of it tonight. I hadn't noticed it moved from side to side, either. No reason to, I suppose. Most tanks are symmetrical enough to not even notice and it certainly doesn't matter.

I remembered first really noticing this when I created a Vietnam era O-2A Skymaster icon for WinSPMBT. It was overall black with "THE FAC" written in red over the wings. When it came in from one side rather than the other the writing was mirrored.

Demtrek November 14th, 2008 09:13 PM

Re: M3 Grant/Lee Tanks
 
Weren't those the ones that were built by us left handed people? Jeez, we have to account for something.


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