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Suicide Junkie September 10th, 2001 04:33 PM

Poll: Ship design strategy
 
There are a number of basic ship design strategies; some of these can only be done effectively with a quasi-newtonian propulsion mod.

Nimble & frail: Ships are faster than anything else around, and lack any shields or armor. Theory: You can't lose if the enemy can't hit you.

SwarmShips: Twice the ships, half the size. Weak offense/defense due to size, but tens to hundreds of ships at a time. Theory: Rapid building, safety in numbers, finer control over fleet composition.

MuscleShips: All weapons, with token defenses, and moderate speed. Theory: You can't lose if the enemy is already dead.

FortressShips: All systems organized for defense. Heavy shields/armor, lots of protection against specialty weapons. Moderate speed, few weapons. Theory: If they can't hurt you, you can't lose.

I am deeply devoted to the FortressShip. I've designed and built $100,000 DNs with that goal in mind.
My dad goes for the nimble & frail. Zero KT of defense, but 13+ movement ships that rarely get hit.

Which do you fall under? Or do you have your own style?

Shoujo September 10th, 2001 04:50 PM

Re: Poll: Ship design strategy
 
Swarmships all the way. Swarmer of choice is the Light Cruiser. 10% defense bonus, and large mounts make them pretty viable in the late game (in sufficient numbers of course http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif ). Defense comes mainly from stealth/scattering armor, ECM, and ship/fleet experience, combined with a 20% defense bonus.

Taqwus September 10th, 2001 05:22 PM

Re: Poll: Ship design strategy
 
"I need guns. Lots of guns." Well, perhaps not *extremely* so, but for my BBs/DNs I tend to favor firepower and speed. But then, I play vs. the AI, which doesn't exactly fare well against extensively-trained ships, so being hit isn't that often an issue. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif

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capnq September 10th, 2001 05:29 PM

Re: Poll: Ship design strategy
 
I guess I'd fit under muscle ships. I've been known to sacrifice an engine or two to fit one more weapon in.

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human mind to correlate all of its contents. We live on a placid
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Phoenix-D September 10th, 2001 05:59 PM

Re: Poll: Ship design strategy
 
Max speed, stealth and scattering when they are available, a PD mount, 3-4 shields, sensors, and the guns for me. Occasionally I'll go nuts and make a ship with like 8 shields, but that's ussually when someone pulls out a Null-Space cannon http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Phoenix-D

Neo September 10th, 2001 06:04 PM

Re: Poll: Ship design strategy
 
My preferred design so far is kind of a hybrid - Nimble Fortress ships. They have has many engines and movement enhancers as possible, a goodly amount of defense, and just a few powerful guns, and maybe a couple of missiles on the larger ships for long range planetary bombardment. I also like to swarm then into large fleets up to about 30-40 ships if I can with support ships - repair, refueler, mine sweepers, and specialized boarding ships with tractor beams and shield, weapon and engine damagers.

Rich04 September 10th, 2001 06:24 PM

Re: Poll: Ship design strategy
 
I would say there is another type you missed and that is the balanced ship.
Good offensive/defensive abilities with decent speed.
This is the type I useally go for. Especially in solo games.
Having said that, my ships in multiplayer tend to adapt to what my opponents are using and what I have to work with. I have used all the types in one game or another. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

LazarusLong42 September 10th, 2001 06:54 PM

Re: Poll: Ship design strategy
 
I'm with Rich04; I go for very balanced ships. Just like with weapons, each of those ship types has inherent advantages/disadvantages. Nimble ships can't be easily hit by Fortresses; Swarms are so small they're worthless against Muscle; and so forth.

A balanced ship has a chance against all other types, I think.

Of course, my true favorite is a swarm of Fortress and Muscle ships. Who says you can't have a fleet of 70 DN's? http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

LL

Shoujo September 10th, 2001 07:52 PM

Re: Poll: Ship design strategy
 
When I want balance (which is always) I go for balanced fleets rather than balanced ships. Because weapons have different ranges/reload times it would just seem to work better that way.

Antonin September 10th, 2001 07:58 PM

Re: Poll: Ship design strategy
 
For me it's Nimble & Frail all the way. In my current game I've built only unarmored, unshielded ships with good engines and as many weapons as possible.

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