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Double_Deuce December 3rd, 2008 08:15 PM

Dismountable Cavalry?
 
I'm working on a project that will utilize dismountable cavalry and I am wondering if anyone else has tried to simulate this.

What I will be doing is modifying pack horses to represent cavalry mounts to use them as part of the players OOB in a campaign. Obviously you would not be able to replace these units if eliminated BUT you could repair them during the campaign.

To give some background, this will be a hypothetical incursion into northern Mexico by horse mounted US Cavalry around January 1941.

Cross December 3rd, 2008 11:43 PM

Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
 
Check with Welk, he created a Napoleonic mod a year or so ago. Don't know if there were dismountables or not.

Here's a thread about it:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...t=steel+empire

cheers,
Cross

DRG December 4th, 2008 03:02 PM

Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
 
There are already dismountable cavalry in some OOB's. The German "Unbritn Kav Zug" ( formation 409 ) is an example.

Don

Double_Deuce December 5th, 2008 04:23 AM

Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 657287)
There are already dismountable cavalry in some OOB's. The German "Unbritn Kav Zug" ( formation 409 ) is an example.

I see them now. :doh: In the US OOB, they are the "Cav Transport Tm".

iCaMpWiThAWP December 5th, 2008 09:35 AM

Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
 
the bad thing is that the cavalry dont disappears after you unload, so you get 2 units(but usually 1 light armed cavalry unit with low ammo loads)

DRG December 5th, 2008 10:54 AM

Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Double_Deuce (Post 657469)
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 657287)
There are already dismountable cavalry in some OOB's. The German "Unbritn Kav Zug" ( formation 409 ) is an example.

I see them now. :doh: In the US OOB, they are the "Cav Transport Tm".

....and in a few weeks you'll have a US OOB with formations built to use them with the already existing dismounted troopers

Don

Double_Deuce December 5th, 2008 03:06 PM

Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 657525)
....and in a few weeks you'll have a US OOB with formations built to use them with the already existing dismounted troopers

Don

Sounds good. ;)

Marek_Tucan December 5th, 2008 04:00 PM

Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP (Post 657510)
the bad thing is that the cavalry dont disappears after you unload, so you get 2 units(but usually 1 light armed cavalry unit with low ammo loads)

Actually that's perfectly logical - someone has to keep the horses ;) It's the same situation as with Motorcycle units.
(For example during and after the American Civil War, the cavalry usually deployed dismounted, forming a skirmish line, with 1 man out of 4 (or, in extreme cases, of 5) keeping horses.

iCaMpWiThAWP December 5th, 2008 09:28 PM

Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marek_Tucan (Post 657591)
Quote:

Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP (Post 657510)
the bad thing is that the cavalry dont disappears after you unload, so you get 2 units(but usually 1 light armed cavalry unit with low ammo loads)

Actually that's perfectly logical - someone has to keep the horses ;) It's the same situation as with Motorcycle units.
(For example during and after the American Civil War, the cavalry usually deployed dismounted, forming a skirmish line, with 1 man out of 4 (or, in extreme cases, of 5) keeping horses.

yeah, so both, the number of men on the transport must be low, 3 or 4 man against ~6 man on the ground maybe?

RichP December 6th, 2008 08:19 AM

Re: Dismountable Cavalry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cross (Post 657181)
Check with Welk, he created a Napoleonic mod a year or so ago. Don't know if there were dismountables or not.

Here's a thread about it:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...t=steel+empire

cheers,
Cross

Sorry to hi-jack the thread slightly, is this mod still 'live'? All of the d/l links in the quoted thread are dead, but it sounds like this gent did some very interesting work.


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