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Swan December 27th, 2008 11:40 AM

Assassin
 
I need to know some things about assassins:
a)other than piercer, there are other ranged armor piercing weapons?
b)i want to do a kamaikaza assassin(in sp), so im going for B9 bless,charged armor, double "explosion on death" misc(the fire one,cant remember name) and holy avenger.:angel
can i put put some other items that do kaboom when my commander die? and what spell/item make him immortal(other than bottle of life)?
c) how is assassination order calculated?for example if i order my assassin to attack one commander and my opponent do the same?

Stavis_L December 27th, 2008 02:38 PM

Re: Assasin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 662319)
I need to know some things about assasins:
a)other than piercer, there are other ranged armor piercing weapons?
b)i want to do a kamaikaza assasin(in sp), so im going for B9 bless,charged armor, double "explosion on death" misc(the fire one,cant remenber name) and holy avenger.:angel
can i put put some other items that do kaboom when my commander die? and what spell/item make him immortal(other than bottle of life)?
c) how is assasination order calculated?for example if i order my assasin to attack one commander and my opponent do the same?

a) Piercer is actually armor negating, not armor piercing. Vision's Foe is also AN. All X-bows and Arbalests (including non-magic ones, with the exception of the above two) are armor piercing, so that includes the Banefire Xbow and the Just-Man's Cross.

b) Not sure that 2 medallions of vengeance will provide double explosions...have you tried it?

As far as other similar effects, try the spells Phoenix Pyre and...what is it? Inner Sun? One that provides fire damage vs. undead upon death.

RE: "limited immortality", there's also the Crystal Heart, with the downside that it causes a chest wound...You might also consider (if the assassin has any death magic) the spell Twiceborn to return as a Wight Mage. You could also look at Ritual of Returning, but that doesn't seem to be what you're after.

You might also consider items that cause additional attacks/damage/spells that don't necessarily require the death of the assassin, such as a Spirit Helms, Astral Serpents, Stone Birds, Eye Shields, etc. I assume you're doing this in SP, so efficiency is less of a concern...

c) someone else can step in w/the algorithm :-)

Aezeal December 27th, 2008 03:05 PM

Re: Assasin
 
ehm the whole idea of a suicide assassin isn't really a good idea in dominions I think.. certainly not if you are going to kit him out.

PS which assassins are immortal?

Kadelake December 27th, 2008 03:25 PM

Re: Assasin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aezeal (Post 662339)
PS which assassins are immortal?

Vampires with black heart.

Swan December 27th, 2008 06:03 PM

Re: Assasin
 
To Stavis_L
a)yes, i meant negating not piercier,my bad.
b)haven't tried it but i think it does work.i'll try tomorrow
Thanks for the immortality answer.
To Aezeal
More than a strategy is a fun, because i like killing gods in unusual way.
Can i know where u take your name from? i think i read of an Aezeal somewhere but cant remember.

chrispedersen December 27th, 2008 11:01 PM

Re: Assasin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kadelake (Post 662343)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aezeal (Post 662339)
PS which assassins are immortal?

Vampires with black heart.

Yep, vamps with black hearts is one of my *favorite* assassins.

LoloMo December 28th, 2008 01:25 AM

Re: Assasin
 
I thought immortal assassins that die or flee during an assassination attempt remain dead?

Sombre December 28th, 2008 09:55 AM

Re: Assasin
 
I think that's true Lolo. Anyone confirm?

Aezeal December 28th, 2008 10:13 AM

Re: Assasin
 
My name, I've played utopia quite a few years under this name.. well everything online I do under this name.. but I can't really think of other stuff except the utopia scene.

Aapeli December 28th, 2008 11:10 AM

Re: Assasin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LoloMo (Post 662407)
I thought immortal assassins that die or flee during an assassination attempt remain dead?

Indeed as far as I know. Don't know the reason why immortality doesn't work on assassinations and I thought it was a bug when my vampire died in my own dominion.


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