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m113apc January 2nd, 2009 07:07 AM

Choose your targets
 
I been reading some treads in the SP:WaW forum, especially the ones about SP:WaW vs. SPWW2. Interesting reading, but this discussion is like the PC vs. MAC, it’s a matter of taste and requirement.

I remember playing WaW before, and since I are a sucker for all SP (since sp1 way back) I liked it, but I don’t remember which version it was. So I can’t either discuss which the best is, or not.

But there is a great feature in WaW that I miss in WW2 and MBT.
It’s the ability to choose my own targets. When its AIs turn, you can choose to engage or not, this is realistic. And this feature has many other positive effects, as ambush, reserve the ammunition and so on.

Maybe this question have been asked before, but is it possible to get this possibility in SPWW2 and MBT?

Marek_Tucan January 2nd, 2009 07:56 AM

Re: Choose your targets
 
This question was asked before, and I for one don't think it's worth the bother. Contrary, its absence keeps level of randomness. Bear in mind that if you, as battallion CO tell your troops "fire at will", they won't ask you for individual permissions. If you want them to wait in ambush, you have to order them to hold their fire )either limiting range or tuning off weapons, in game sense). You fail to do it - you blow your ambush, fair and square.

m113apc January 2nd, 2009 08:58 AM

Re: Choose your targets
 
Well, it depends on which level you play, and how you choose to manage your troops.
A battalion commander are different from person to person, there are many ways to manage your troops. This I also know from personal experience after serving for many years, under many different battalion commanders. One CO just says “fix it” and move on, another say “do it like that and that, and then do this”.

There is also a huge difference between Eastern and Western commanders. In the West you have a flexible chain of command, just like the Germans had during WWII, if the officer in charge, or NCO saw a better way to solve the mission, he could. In the East and especially in Russia, or other nations that during the East/West (cold war) adopted Eastern strategy, you have a less flexibility, where the BN CO in the most cases has to follow a thorough plan. Where the possibility for diverge from the plan is small, or lesser than you find in the West.

But back to the game.
For an example. I set up an ambush, but the window for possibility is small, so the enemy during AI playtime passes. This can be an open gate through a forest, a street, or something similar.

So the question still remains?
This feature could be put in the preferences, and then you could choose for yourself.

But if these questions have been brought up earlier, with the answers I am seeking please post the link to the tread.

DRG January 2nd, 2009 09:02 AM

Re: Choose your targets
 
Yeah this question's been asked before.

The answers no.

Anybody that can't live without that feature has that game to play.

IDK why people think it desirable in the big scheme of things for both games to be the same. The whole REASON that other game exists is because a group of gamers had their own ideas that differed from Andy and I on the direction SP should go. If you like that feature then by all means don't play our game. You have a choice. Usually that's considered a plus in life .

However.... have you considered how "gamey" that particular feature is ? It's only useable against the AI and the AI has enough handicaps to deal with. We allow opfire filtering but it's at least usable against a human opponent as well.

Anyone who wants this has the other game to play. It's that simple.

Don

m113apc January 2nd, 2009 10:05 AM

Re: Choose your targets
 
Wow, this was a harsh answer for a simple question.
This was merely a question, not criticism.

If I hadn’t liked what I saw when playing the free version, I wouldn’t bought both your games.

Anyway, it was just a small and simple question, nothing more.

narwan January 2nd, 2009 01:32 PM

Re: Choose your targets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m113apc (Post 663388)
Wow, this was a harsh answer for a simple question.
This was merely a question, not criticism.

Understood, but don't forget that this question gets asked at least once every six months or so. Search the board and you'll find several threads where it creeps up.
Same with the more general comparison between the two games. There's a reason they're different in certain aspects. Their respective developers have different opinions on what's desirable and what not. Just about everything you'll find in one game and not in the other is absent from one for that very reason.
Comparing and requesting features of the different games is a dead horse that gets flogged back to life on the boards every so often. And that's been going on for quite some years now. So please understand that it's an issue that'll get cut down soon.

Narwan

JohnHale January 2nd, 2009 01:42 PM

Re: Choose your targets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m113apc (Post 663356)
But there is a great feature in WaW that I miss in WW2 and MBT.


That "feature" drove me absolutely mad, M113! Hated it, hated it.

Different strokes for different folks, though. ;-))

m113apc January 2nd, 2009 01:51 PM

Re: Choose your targets
 
narwan
This is understandable; I have the answer on this subject, so I am more than satisfied.

Quote:

That "feature" drove me absolutely mad, M113! Hated it, hated it.
Well John, thinking back I can also remember some moments driving me mad with that option, when I played big games with so many forces that the game allowed med to have, so maybe were better of with not having that option.

Thx 4 all your replies.

JohnHale January 2nd, 2009 02:41 PM

Re: Choose your targets
 
And before Don says it: well done for buying the CDs and supporting the game!

PanzerBob January 2nd, 2009 08:57 PM

Re: Choose your targets
 
Good day m113apc

I don't think Don was harsh, and as you said he answered the question. With these types of questions the Guys are always hoping they won't have to answer them again. I've been there myself. As for that feature I always turned it off because with the size of campaigns I fight it only increased the time it took to play a game.

As for ambushes I believe you said you have the CD version, with that one of the "extra" features is the ability to order units to fire at certain types of units, this combined was the range setting feature can help you set up some interesting "ambushes".


I have had successes with small AT weapons and Snipers. Maybe that would give you the tactic you desire with WWII.

Bob out:D


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