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FloodNZ February 1st, 2009 04:30 PM

Squad Size and Manpower
 
I have a question regarding the number of men in a squad. Now I understand what 'size' means so that a squad with size 0 is harder to spot than size 1 or 2. But the question I have is does the amount of men in a squad have any more effectiveness than a smaller squad? If not then why do some OOB's like the Polish 1939 one have 19 men in a squad? Is this purely to create bigger companies to show poorer command and control?

RERomine February 1st, 2009 07:43 PM

Re: Squad Size and Manpower
 
Not that I've ever seen. I know what you are getting at; 19 rifles firing from a Polish squad should do more damage than 4 rifles from a German scout unit. While it would make logical sense, the code would have to support changes in the strength of a squad as it takes damage. This is something it may not support.

Larger does translate into longer endurance in combat, i.e., losing 10 out of 19 is less of a factor than losing 10 out of 11. Endurance is also affected by experience. It's difficult to say how effective an experience 100 Polish squad would be since I've never seen one. I have seen other squads stick longer as experience increases.

Mobhack February 1st, 2009 08:34 PM

Re: Squad Size and Manpower
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FloodNZ (Post 671295)
I have a question regarding the number of men in a squad. Now I understand what 'size' means so that a squad with size 0 is harder to spot than size 1 or 2. But the question I have is does the amount of men in a squad have any more effectiveness than a smaller squad? If not then why do some OOB's like the Polish 1939 one have 19 men in a squad? Is this purely to create bigger companies to show poorer command and control?

see Mobhack help, weapons tab section, for weapon class 1 in weapon slot 1. A section with more men hits harder (especially as range decreases), but suppressing it only takes the one firer.

Large sections for the 39 Polish covers the WW1 style of organisation with a few large sections to a platoon, deployed close together. They change to a more modern platoon organisation later on.

Andy

runequester February 3rd, 2009 01:32 PM

Re: Squad Size and Manpower
 
It also seems those large units take more casualties, though Im not sure how much of that is attributable to low experience

Ramm February 23rd, 2009 05:01 PM

Re: Squad Size and Manpower
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by runequester (Post 671823)
It also seems those large units take more casualties, though Im not sure how much of that is attributable to low experience

I would have to agree with that sentiment, it seemed to me at times that my large polish squads would melt away like butter on a hot plate from the weakest of enemy fires. Fires that would leave a normal squad intact.

Sincerely,

Andrew

Marek_Tucan February 23rd, 2009 05:42 PM

Re: Squad Size and Manpower
 
There are so many bulletproof hideaways in a 50m circle ;)


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