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Imp June 4th, 2009 10:45 AM

A question for the Russians
 
Thanks for your work on the OOB but can you answer a couple of questions about troop carriers.
1) If possible a rough guide by era as to how common some are.
Really want to know the most common like for instance I think the BTR 50P & BTR 60 were far more common than later models 70, 80 for a long time after they were introduced?
Would it be correct to say forces facing Central Europe (WGF) would tend to have the newer stuff while others would be maily equiped with earlier versions

2) There are many types BMP, BTR & BTR light
The BTR Light Company in the OOB comes without RPG teams.
My question is if possible & realise it may vary is which formation Normal or Light represents troops attached to an Armored Regiment & which a Mech Regiment.

Спасибо для вашей работы на OOB но могут вы ответить несколько вопросы о несущих войск.

1) Если возможно грубый направляющий выступ к эра о, то как общее некоторые. Действительно те знать самые общие как например я думают & BTR 50P; BTR 60 был далеко более общим чем более поздно моделирует 70, 80 в течение длительного времени после того как они ввел? Он был бы правильно сказать что усилия смотря на Чентрал Еуропе (WGF) будет клонить иметь более новое вещество пока другие maily были бы оборудованы с ранними версиями

2) Много типов BMP, & BTR; Свет BTR BTR Свет Компания в OOB приходит без команд RPG. Мой вопрос если возможное & осуществьте что он может поменять которому образованию нормальному или светлому представляет войск прикрепленных к Armored & полка; которо Mech полк.

Marcello June 4th, 2009 12:47 PM

Re: A question for the Russians
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Imp (Post 694393)
Would it be correct to say forces facing Central Europe (WGF) would tend to have the newer stuff while others would be maily equiped with earlier versions

As a general rule, yes. In practice it was not an absolute. Aside from obvious expections, such as T-80UDs issued to the
4th Guards tank division near Moscow, there would be units in Germany still using T-55s while units in some backwater would get T-72s or, in some cases, even T-64s.

hoplitis June 4th, 2009 01:21 PM

Re: A question for the Russians
 
Imp,
a place to start:
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/90...s.html#6%20CAA

Modern APCs and Armor are not so common as we amateurs may think...

but I don't think we need to find out the ... "hard" way eh! :D

KraMax June 7th, 2009 06:05 AM

Re: A question for the Russians
 
Thanks Imp.

If I understood you correctly, you need a real composition of our forces during the Cold War?
If so, I will give you a link to the PDF-file (Russian language), which lists and describes the full and actual composition of our armies 1946-1991.
In this file a lot of data and they are all in Russian. Translate this file is very difficult if you're looking for any specific military or periods and locations, you tell me about it and I will try to help you with the translation.
If I do not understand, please - reformulated his question.

Best regards

KraMax June 7th, 2009 06:05 AM

Re: A question for the Russians
 
link to PDF-file:

http://files.filefront.com/yandbtm2p.../fileinfo.html

Imp June 7th, 2009 09:33 AM

Re: A question for the Russians
 
Thanks all turns out my infantry have had rides that conform to the "luxury" end of the market much as I suspected.

Marek_Tucan June 14th, 2009 03:07 PM

Re: A question for the Russians
 
Just have a look at the action in South Ossetia, you'll see likely forces mix for such a sudden "flare-up", IOW for most likely scenario.
1) regular troops - Motor Rifle Division, equipped with T-72B and a mix of BMP-1 and 2. And 2S3 for artillery, no fancy Msta-S.
2) various composite units hurried to the area, composed from experienced soldiers - VDV, "kontraktniki"... But equipped from wartime reserve stocks. So VDV with BMD-1, mech troops with BMP-1 and T-62...

Imp June 14th, 2009 03:22 PM

Re: A question for the Russians
 
When you actually start looking at the numbers of high end gear available to certain armies you realise that you are in no way using a representative force.
Russia do have some really really nice toys but cant see them attacking anyone with them, logistics must be a nightmare with the variety of types available.

Marek_Tucan June 14th, 2009 03:34 PM

Re: A question for the Russians
 
Well, depends on country and on post-Cold War force reductions ;) Say Czech Republic clearly can send out ONLY high-end toys (as it has just 2 brigades, so it will be either MR Bde with T-72M4 and BVP-2 or MR Bde with Pandur II) ;)

Denis_469 June 20th, 2009 04:16 AM

Re: A question for the Russians
 
http://www.yaplakal.com/findpost/371...pic220364.html

new NK MLRS M-1991 240mm with self targeting AT ammo and claster ammo against infantry. And few pictures from 2008 year mainly.


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