tor vs patriot
 

another strange thing

why are patriot sam systems stats a lot better than tor sam system and still tor is double or triple better in a game than patriot?

patriot doesnt destroy the plane not even in 2-3 hits and tor almost always destroys it and tor hits a lot more often also

so what else there are "between the stats" that the stats wont show ?

are these things learnt only by experience in playing winspmbt those stats seems to be only for show not for actual meaning ?

Re: tor vs patriot
 

Just coincidense I believe. Whenever I use patriots they are very good at killing stuff.

Re: tor vs patriot
 

quite strange indeed

i ran some tests tor was superior to destroy sam planes and always hits more oftena and destroys planes i had higher exp patriot than tor and still tor was the winner at ease

and tor is even mobile and patriot is not

Re: tor vs patriot
 

First of all, the strange thing is not that Tor is effective. It should, it's a superb system. What is strange is that your Patriots don't hit. What side are you, time and what is your opponent? (country and units that you are trying to destroy)

Re: tor vs patriot
 

i tried gulf states and usa patriots against china j-10 but i also tried it against mirage from gulf states and the better ew9 plane with gulf states (with tor it did not matter what plane it was or ew it almost always did hit on 60% accuracy) the hitting is not the biggest problems with patriot in my use it's the inabality to kill i have never seen a patriot system to crash a plane not even if it hits twice it only does low damage like 1-8 against tor like 100 damage i suppose this is weird because if i remember right tor had kill and pen 14 against patriots 75

this test was against sead planes

oh and year 2009

i just remembered i did see patriot in one test game to drop a plane but for 1 drop i have seen many low damage ones and if i remember right i have seen tor always to drop everything it hits in one hit

i tested tor against those same units

Re: tor vs patriot
 

Dont use either very often but the exp of the pilot would count as think works
Pilot passes can attempt to evade lowering hit chance, might check against firers exp so set up a test with all units set to 70 exp. Also if his EW beats the SAMs lowers hit again.
On Patriots hits pretty sure I have seen quite a few 200 plus damage hits in the past but dont use Area SAMs much so hard to be sure.

Either look in the OOB editor for an error or do a test in game editor.
Use Allies button & buy both SAMs for 1 side. Change them so arranged in order of Patriot Tor Patriot Tor etc & place both in the same hex that way those 2 units will fire 1 after the other.
Dont use SEAD or you will suppress second firer.

Re: tor vs patriot
 

Okay not a proper test but what exactly are you talking about.
Bought 12 of each the TOR being the good one M1
Bought from Russia & USA.
Other side Russian planes with EW of 6, 8 & 9
One plane, thats one plane managed to evade constantly both types but hit eventually, probably took about 5 or 6 & Patriot got him in the end.
Hit chances from 40 - 80 most 55-65 but quite a few higher probably vs low EW planes stopped paying attention.
Of all the Patriot hits & I would say they did marginally better only 1 caused less than 70 damage. Lots were 180+ so not a lot left of the plane so I cant see what the problem is unless there is an error in the OOB of the side you are using but think thats doubtful.
Conclusion, both are more than capable of doing the job normally 1 or 2 shots before fireball.