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vfb August 25th, 2009 05:18 PM

Unrestricted Battle Flight
 
I saw a recent post by Baalz that Horrors can stormfly, but they don't have the stormfly tag in Edi's DB.

What other units have unrestricted flight in battles? They ignore storms, and units like this can also fly underwater.

Edit: Here are the attributes you need to fly underwater. You cannot fly underwater if you gain these attributes through items:
Amphibian or Poor Amphibian
Flight
Stormpower or Stormimmune


Units which can Storm fly:

Djinn
Hunter of Heroes
Defiler of Dreams
Eater of Gods
Eater of Dreams
Horror
Lesser Horror
Abomination of Desolation
Air Elemental
Dai Tengu
Karasu Tengu
Konoha Tengu
Lord of the Plague Wind
Queen of Clouds
Queen of Storms
Queen of Thunder
Red Tengu
Rudra
Shed
Storm Demon
Storm General
Storm Guard
Sylph
Tempest Lord
Tempest Warrior
Tengu Warrior
Unwinged (need to add flight)
Yazad
any unit wielding Gift of Kurgi, or Igor's Tome

Units which can fly underwater:

Djinn
Hunter of Heroes
Defiler of Dreams
Eater of Gods
Eater of Dreams
Horror
Lesser Horror
Abomination of Desolation


I tested all the other ethereal & flying creatures (Visitor, Vastness, Phantasmal Horror etc) from Edi's DB, and they couldn't Storm fly.

K August 25th, 2009 08:33 PM

Re: Unrestricted Battle Flight
 
After testing with a Staff of Storms, it seems Storm Demons are able to do this on top of their "ignore precision loss of Storms" ability.

Other ones to check would be Pazuzu, and the Bandar national summons guy that teleports. The list is pretty short as I recall.

vfb August 25th, 2009 09:18 PM

Re: Unrestricted Battle Flight
 
Yep, Storm Demons have the "Stormflyer" attribute. It's column EX, "Movement - strmfly" in Edi's DB. Here's a cut & paste of those units:

Air Elemental
Dai Tengu
Karasu Tengu
Konoha Tengu
Queen of Clouds
Queen of Storms
Queen of Thunder
Red Tengu
Shed
Storm Demon
Storm General
Storm Guard
Sylph
Tempest Lord
Tempest Warrior
Tengu Warrior
Unwinged
Yazad

But I was looking for units that are not on this list, who can also fly in storms, and who can fly underwater.

statttis August 25th, 2009 10:08 PM

Re: Unrestricted Battle Flight
 
Haven't tested, but I think Rudra and Morrigan can also storm fly.

vfb August 25th, 2009 10:54 PM

Re: Unrestricted Battle Flight
 
Thanks. I tested, and Morrigans can't stormfly, but the Rudra can, it even says so in the description. I've added it to the top post, since I can't edit post #3.

zzcat August 26th, 2009 01:19 AM

Re: Unrestricted Battle Flight
 
Refer to this link:
http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Horror
There is a hidden tag "stormimmune" which is not mentioned in Edi's DB.

BTW, the wiki contains a lot of undocumented tags like "fortunate events X"(firebird, lady of funtune), "Divine being"(angels and national sommons of Bandarlog) and "magic 1"(Lugh the Long Handed). it seems the database is extracted directly from the game files.

vfb August 26th, 2009 02:00 AM

Re: Unrestricted Battle Flight
 
Thanks! That's very handy.

But strangely, the units in my second list are able to fly underwater, even though lch's DB just has the same "stormimmune 1" tag for the Dai Tengu and a Horror, for example.

vfb August 26th, 2009 02:28 AM

Re: Unrestricted Battle Flight
 
Okay, I did some testing with modding.

To fly underwater, you need these intrinsic unit attributes:
Amphibian or Poor Amphibian
Flight
Stormpower or Stormimmune

You cannot add an item (eg Winged Shoes/Flying Carpet/Gift of Kurgi) and be able to fly underwater, if the unit does not already natively have Amphibian+Flight+Stormimmune.

Edi August 26th, 2009 08:20 AM

Re: Unrestricted Battle Flight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zzcat (Post 707205)
Refer to this link:
http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Horror
There is a hidden tag "stormimmune" which is not mentioned in Edi's DB.

BTW, the wiki contains a lot of undocumented tags like "fortunate events X"(firebird, lady of funtune), "Divine being"(angels and national sommons of Bandarlog) and "magic 1"(Lugh the Long Handed). it seems the database is extracted directly from the game files.

Stormimmune is the same as stormflyer. The reason the DB tag is different is that it was earlier, and the #stormimmune modding command was added later. The #stormpower command grants stormimmunity in addition to the statboost during storms.

The Wiki stuff is extracted directly from the game. The DB spreadsheet has been transcribed by hand, which is why not everything (the undocumented stuff) is not included and why the stormflyer list was incomplete. Since it was a hidden attribute, I could only add the ones I knew.

vfb August 26th, 2009 09:14 AM

Re: Unrestricted Battle Flight
 
Well, it was a big help having what you've got in the DB, in any case! The new wiki stuff is great too, but currently there's no interface to search it by attribute, eg find all the stormimmune units.

I thought that the underwater flight might be another hidden attribute, but it just turned out to be a combination of existing ones.


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