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GrudgeBringer February 5th, 2010 07:59 AM

Stone Idol
 
We where in a discussion about The merits of the Stone Idol and a couple of other questions came up that I never had really thought of.

I need just a simple answer (lol, if there ever IS just a simple answer in this game).

If you have more than 1 Stone Idol in a province, do the effects stack?

And the questions that arose out of that is...(and I will use skeptics as an example) How many skeptics can you put in a province before you get diminishing returns, or they are just better used elsewhere. (although I am using skeptics as an example, I am referring to all dominion reducing mages etc).

Thanks

WingedDog February 5th, 2010 08:48 AM

Re: Stone Idol
 
Yes, heretic effect stacks just like effect from preaching priests.

You'd better send your skeptics away from your dominion.

Just ran a quick test. I had a capital province, temple and pretender with domstr 10. Hired 2 skeptics, gave stone idol to 1 of them and dominion started redusing for about 2 candles each turn.

Sombre February 5th, 2010 08:59 AM

Re: Stone Idol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrudgeBringer (Post 730034)
And the questions that arose out of that is...(and I will use skeptics as an example) How many skeptics can you put in a province before you get diminishing returns, or they are just better used elsewhere. (although I am using skeptics as an example, I am referring to all dominion reducing mages etc).

You won't see diminishing returns until you get to neutral dom in the province, at which point there is no return. I'm not sure when heresy occurs in the turn order - probably at the same time as preaching, so after domspread/checks.

Fantomen February 5th, 2010 09:09 AM

Re: Stone Idol
 
So is heresy more effective than stealth preaching until you reach neutral dominion? Would it make sense to send a squad of heretics or stone idol holders before your stealth preachers, rather than simply sending more stealth preachers?

This is assuming you are going for a domkill.

WingedDog February 5th, 2010 11:01 AM

Re: Stone Idol
 
Skeptic or stone idol holder is equal to H3 preaching priest.
Skeptic with stone idol is equal to H6 preaching priest, which is very effective.

FAJ February 5th, 2010 12:04 PM

Re: Stone Idol
 
Which leads me to a question I don't know the answer to:

What is the best way to kill a skeptic/stealthy unit in a province when you know he is there. For example, I know that a stealthy commander is sitting in one of my provinces, how do I kill him? Patrolling doesn't seem all that effective.

Meglobob February 5th, 2010 12:08 PM

Re: Stone Idol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FAJ (Post 730070)
Which leads me to a question I don't know the answer to:

What is the best way to kill a skeptic/stealthy unit in a province when you know he is there. For example, I know that a stealthy commander is sitting in one of my provinces, how do I kill him? Patrolling doesn't seem all that effective.

Patrol with big enough force should uncover them or mind hunt could do the trick, hopefully no stealthy astral mage with them thou...:D

Sombre February 5th, 2010 12:33 PM

Re: Stone Idol
 
Remember that fliers/units with high prec/AP are the best at patrolling.

Caelum is awesome at it, for example. Call of the Winds also does well.


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