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Stavis_L March 5th, 2010 10:33 AM

Which units have heretic ability?
 
Which units have the heretic ability?

So far I've found:

Abba
Epoptes
Heliodromus
Leo
Reveler
Sceptic

..and of course:

Lord of Hell (Belphegor)

Are there others?

Gregstrom March 5th, 2010 10:58 AM

Re: Which units have heretic ability?
 
Oddly, there seems to be nothing in Edi's db to cover this.

lch March 6th, 2010 08:34 AM

Re: Which units have heretic ability?
 
You've been missing the Eater of Gods in all his forms, otherwise that list is complete.

Edi March 6th, 2010 07:26 PM

Re: Which units have heretic ability?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregstrom (Post 734191)
Oddly, there seems to be nothing in Edi's db to cover this.

You haven't looked hard enough. Heretic is there, has been ever since the icon came available. Look up Leo, Sceptic or Epoptes for example.

Gregstrom March 7th, 2010 02:52 AM

Re: Which units have heretic ability?
 
Maybe it's the version of the db I'm looking at then. In the static Excel version of the 3.23b db, Sceptic has a footnote saying 'lowers dominion', but units like Epoptes don't.

Ragnarok-X March 7th, 2010 01:41 PM

Re: Which units have heretic ability?
 
What does heretic do ?

Stavis_L March 7th, 2010 03:59 PM

Re: Which units have heretic ability?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragnarok-X (Post 734467)
What does heretic do ?

A unit w/Heretic acts like the Stone Idol; basically, it's like they're a priest of a one nation preaching in different nation's dominion (and thus lowering it.) The difference is that they always have the effect (i.e. you don't need to specify "apply heresy" or something) and it applies to your own dominion as well (so you don't want a stack of them in your capitol, unless you've got really bad scales or something.)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Edi (Post 734373)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregstrom (Post 734191)
Oddly, there seems to be nothing in Edi's db to cover this.

You haven't looked hard enough. Heretic is there, has been ever since the icon came available. Look up Leo, Sceptic or Epoptes for example.

Like Gregstrom, I'm using the Excel version, and I can't seem to find it either, in either the AllUnits or BaseU tabs.

Edi March 8th, 2010 01:54 AM

Re: Which units have heretic ability?
 
It's there. Inquisitor and heretic abilities are right after the magic section, since inquisitor is related to holy magic (it requires the unit to be a priest) and heretic is basically a reverse and related to dominion spread. That's why they're placed there, instead of with the other non-combat abilities.

Stavis_L March 8th, 2010 08:28 AM

Re: Which units have heretic ability?
 
Ah, yet another pointless thread inspired by my inability to see what's in front of my face :-]

Thanks Edi! Thanks lch!


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