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GrudgeBringer May 5th, 2010 06:47 PM

Attack Order
 
Quick Question...

I made a mortal mistake of getting my Tart that casts Rain of Stones moving along with my regular army. I was jumped and he did a MAGNIFICENT job of decimating BOTH armies and then he retreated (Sigh).

Which made me think...What if I wanted to attack province A and had the Tart in Province B and my Chariot army in province C.

IF I had the tart move attack province (or at least move it first) into A and then move the Chariots into province A will they agian both attack at the same time OR because of the magic phase will the tart have the rain of stones cast abd retreated BEFORE the Chariots arrive?

Does this make any sense to anyone...:confused:

rdonj May 5th, 2010 06:59 PM

Re: Attack Order
 
the magic phase is the magic MOVEMENT and rituals phase. Unless you cloud trapezed or teleported the tartarian, it would fight at the same time.

chrispedersen May 5th, 2010 08:06 PM

Re: Attack Order
 
what you want to do is teleport or air trap in, then ritual of returning out.

This, by the way, is what we were doing in NAV.. with Squirrel.

GrudgeBringer May 6th, 2010 12:06 AM

Re: Attack Order
 
So I could use boots of teleportation IN...and ROR out....THEN my army attacks what is left. OR, does it HAVE to be magic like CT etc IN and ROR out so it is all magic?

And BTW, isn't using a magic item (boots of teleportation) the same as using magic?

chrispedersen May 6th, 2010 01:29 AM

Re: Attack Order
 
that will work just fine.

Jarkko May 6th, 2010 01:55 AM

Re: Attack Order
 
Somewhat related (I hope), I seem to have mixed results with casting Ghost Riders and Call of the Wild to same province. I seem to remember I have been able to first hit with GR, and then my CotW took over the empty province, but in a game recently my CotW combat happened first and then th GR. Is there any way to predict which attack happens first in the magic combat phase?

Rookierookie May 6th, 2010 02:09 AM

Re: Attack Order
 
It checks against the ID of the caster IIRC.

Jarkko May 6th, 2010 02:21 AM

Re: Attack Order
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rookierookie (Post 744510)
It checks against the ID of the caster IIRC.

The rituals are cast in that order yes, but the actual combats seemed to happen in a random order. I *thought* the combats would be in the ID order too, but that didn't seem to be the case. Damn I wish I had the save of that left :(

Dimaz May 6th, 2010 07:08 AM

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You should assume random order; half of the CotW casts will be useless.
Better use scouts, but only moving from other provinces not targeted by GoR.
I tried different variants and it's the only one that works always.

13lackGu4rd May 6th, 2010 08:41 AM

Re: Attack Order
 
the tart retreated because the Rain of Stones killed more than 70% of your army, or at least that's the most likely reason. so yes, I agree with Chrispedersen, you want to teleport in, cast rain of stones than ritual of returning out, than let your army move in and finish off whatever survived.


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