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Kref May 20th, 2010 01:46 AM

decrease of population problem
 
I am playing for ea pangaea. I have grouth 3 scale; I've casted carrion woods global enchantment. I constantle have about 100 corpses at my capital, so my capital's population decreases.
Is this a work of venom charm?
Also I have 68 harpies on patrol. I've two or three times caught harpie scouts of la pangaea; harpie scouts have +20 stealth.
I am suspicious that these corpses are the work of machaka's Ear of the lord, but such spies are also have +20 stealth, but I didn't still didn'r caught any of such spies. If this is a venom charm of machaka, how can machaka's spies avoid detection when harpies are caught?
There is also ma china in game, with imperial consort with +35 stealth, but it doesn't seem that china has interest in peace or war with me and machaka, as it doesn't have borders with me and i believe it doesn't have borders with machaka, especially long borders.

Rookierookie May 20th, 2010 01:55 AM

Re: decrease of population problem
 
You should read Carrion Woods' spell description.

Kref May 20th, 2010 02:47 AM

Re: decrease of population problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rookierookie (Post 746097)
You should read Carrion Woods' spell description.

I have corpses only in capital province, and vinemen are created evrywhere. Does carrion woods kill population only in one province, and what this province is? Capital province, province where the encantment was cast, province where is caster this month?

GameExtremist May 20th, 2010 03:19 AM

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With this enchantment, population living inside the Pretender's Dominion will quickly die and the carcasses will be reanimated by living plants. In forests, animals will be reanimated to join the forces of Pangaea when they die their natural deaths.
Quoted from the wiki spell description.

Basically as long as you have this global up, your population will die in friendly dominion.

Think of LA Ermors dominion effect.

Calahan May 20th, 2010 05:37 AM

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I would guess you always have corpses at your capital simply because your capital is almost certain to have far more population than any of your other provinces. And again since it is likely Carrion Woods kills a percentage of population each month rather than a fixed number (since Dominions generally uses percentages for many calculations over fixed numbers), your capital will always have the most corpses, and Carrion Woods probably doesn't have a 100% conversion rate.

The result of all this could then easily be the ~100 corpses you see at your capital each month. This should decrease as your capital population decreases, or if you use the corpses yourself by reanimating with Carrion Lords etc.


I'm not absolutely certain of the mechanics of Carrion Woods though, as I've never cast the spell myself or really tested it (and unable to test right now). So please take the above as an educated guess rather than gospel truth. The above does tie in with how Dominions usually works, but hopefully Jarkko will post soon to clarify all this as he's the Carrion Woods / Pangaea expert.

fantasma May 20th, 2010 05:39 AM

Re: decrease of population problem
 
Can it not be that there are corpses all over the place but you don't have death mages to detect them?

thejeff May 20th, 2010 05:48 AM

Re: decrease of population problem
 
Our capital also is likely to have the highest dominion and thus the highest percentage as well as the highest population.

Lingchih May 20th, 2010 06:19 AM

Re: decrease of population problem
 
Jesus Kref. You cast Carrion Woods, and you wonder why your pop is going down?

Read the manual dude.

Not much in the manual still applies, with all the mods, but Carrion Woods still does.

rdonj May 20th, 2010 06:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fantasma (Post 746114)
Can it not be that there are corpses all over the place but you don't have death mages to detect them?

This. You need death mages to see corpses.

Apsophos May 20th, 2010 08:21 AM

Re: decrease of population problem
 
Great, so if I cast raven feast at your capital, according to the wiki I should get two D gems, so it would convert A to D at 2:1.
Ok, I'll do that if I'm really desperate for death gems, which I'm not at the moment.


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