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JonBrave November 20th, 2011 06:34 PM

Some random questions
 
1. Berserk. I thought this had some kind of "negative" fatigue effect, but it doesn't seem so? So (other that your guy is going to win or die, not retreat) is "berserk" a fully good thing?

2. Two-handed weapons. When are these advantageous over a one-handed + shield? I never use them because I lose the second slot.

3. Hooves. Why can't you put booties on them, if that's what you want to do? ;)

PriestyMan November 20th, 2011 06:46 PM

Re: Some random questions
 
1 berzerk lowers defense and increased encumberance
2 not that many of them are good for exactly that reason. some are niche though like flambeau, holy scourge, bows, and some staves for example

JonBrave November 20th, 2011 06:56 PM

Re: Some random questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PriestyMan (Post 788959)
1 berzerk lowers defense and increased encumberance

Ah, thank you. On manual p.56 it doesn't seem to mention that, maybe it does on some in-game tooltip or similar...

sansanjuan November 20th, 2011 07:50 PM

Re: Some random questions
 
......So (other that your guy is going to win or die, not retreat) is "berserk" a fully good thing?


berserk is a nice counter when fighting fear and awe. Often not so nice on casters...

-ssj

TigerBlood November 20th, 2011 08:48 PM

Re: Some random questions
 
I have had some success with beserk Pan sabbath slaves. Only in single player though.

Corinthian November 21st, 2011 06:27 AM

Re: Some random questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PriestyMan (Post 788959)
1 berzerk lowers defense and increased encumberance.

A small correction. Berzerk adds two points of negative, invisible reinvigoration. Not encumbrance.

The difference being that quickened units dont get fatigue twice and that paralyzed units continue to get fatigue even when not moving.

And also, unlike the other bonuses/mauluses that depends on the amount of berzerk(+#). Its always 2 points of negative reinvigoration.

triqui November 21st, 2011 07:52 AM

Re: Some random questions
 
As already stated, Berserker give you a total net of -2 fatigue per turn, which is not exactly the same as encumbrance 2.

That said, the overall effect of Berserker is positive. It lowers defense, but raises protection, which offset it (+2 protection is better than +2 defense). It gives you attack and strength, which increase overall offensive ability. Plus being unbreakable is very sexy

JonBrave November 21st, 2011 04:58 PM

Re: Some random questions
 
Sorry, gone mad thanking you all, very helpful replies!

Makes more sense to me now that it's fatigue not encumberance. But, @triqui, I presume you mean "2" fatigue, not "-2", right? Negative reinvigoration ==~ (positive) fatigue

triqui November 22nd, 2011 01:12 AM

Re: Some random questions
 
Yep, I was trying to said -2 reinvigoration, actually.


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