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Olm March 6th, 2012 07:38 PM

Magic Site placement
 
So a province can have a maximum of 4 sites.

Is the site type totally random (not considering requirements for sites) or is there something like an "only one gorgeous site per province" implemented?

Can I theoretically have for example a province with Const 20%, Ench 20% Alt 20% and Conj 20% all at once?
Or a province with Tower of the Golden Order, Tower of the Iron Order, Tower of the Silver Order and The Underworld?

Currently I have a province with Tower of the Golden Order, The Doom Cloud, Singing Stones and a Great Silver Mine and wondered how much better it could get. (Income for that province: 2F 3S 3A 2D 1E 60gp and Adepts of the Golden Order as recruits)

Has anybody for example ever had a province with the maximum of 20 Gems income?

Knai March 6th, 2012 08:49 PM

Re: Magic Site placement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Olm (Post 797797)
Can I theoretically have for example a province with Const 20%, Ench 20% Alt 20% and Conj 20% all at once?
Or a province with Tower of the Golden Order, Tower of the Iron Order, Tower of the Silver Order and The Underworld?

As far as I know, yes. It's unlikely, however. Moreover, the second province isn't even that wonderful, as having all of those split up would probably serve you better. Having to pick between a mage of each order instead of getting a mage from each one of the orders is less than ideal.

Edi March 7th, 2012 05:35 PM

Re: Magic Site placement
 
Yes, it can get better than that. Some of the stuff I've seen:

- Library of Time, Monolith, Sun Ridge, The Maze (7S, 2F, 1E + cheap as all get out S3 mages). That was in one of the very few multiplayer games I've taken part of, too.

- The Sun Below, Sea of the Tears of Men, Prison of the Desert Sun and Sun Ridge in the same province.

- Banefire Braziers, Litter Skull, Banefire Forge and a fourth site. That also in MP and random sites, not scripted. Playing a death nation. This was in Dom2 on the Faerun map, and I got crushed by Atlantis, but some of the provinces I did get were absolutely outrageous.

A couple of other combos I've seen on random that were pretty damned insane. You don't hit them all that often, but play enough games and they pop up from time to time.

Knai March 7th, 2012 05:49 PM

Re: Magic Site placement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edi (Post 797864)
- Library of Time, Monolith, Sun Ridge, The Maze (7S, 2F, 1E + cheap as all get out S3 mages). That was in one of the very few multiplayer games I've taken part of, too.

Cheap Astral 3 mages with some solid side abilities as well.

HoleyDooley March 8th, 2012 01:08 AM

Re: Magic Site placement
 
A province with Const 20%, Ench 20% Alt 20% and Conj 20%, where can I find out exactly what the bonus means for these sites?

Knai March 8th, 2012 01:18 AM

Re: Magic Site placement
 
The bonus is a discount to gem costs for spells cast (and items made, for construction) in those schools. More specifically, it is percentage off, where everything rounds down - so, a 6 gem spell costs 4 gems, for example.

HoleyDooley March 8th, 2012 01:44 AM

Re: Magic Site placement
 
Thx Knai.

Corinthian March 8th, 2012 01:56 AM

Re: Magic Site placement
 
I once found a province with an Alt 20%, a conj 20% and Chillsick swamp in it. Fun.

Also, to ad up on what Knai said. Unlike hammers, discount sites seem to round up the cost. So a 6 gem spell cast at a 30% bonus site would cost 5 gems. If it had worked like with a hammer it would have rounded down and costed 4 gems.

bbz March 8th, 2012 10:15 AM

Re: Magic Site placement
 
I was wondering is there only 1 20% const province per map? If there are two and you get two steel ovens for example in the same province would it net to 40% less forging costs? Or even better in vanilla. 2 alt sites for + 70-80%(net) that'd be insane. wish for 30-20 gems:D

Makinus March 8th, 2012 03:57 PM

Re: Magic Site placement
 
you can have more than one 20% site in a map, they are not unique, but they do not stack if you get multiple in a province, only the highest bonus is used.


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