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Oor-tael September 13th, 2012 06:53 AM

Nature magic and age limit mechanism
 
I thought I knew the mechanism, and recent tests proved me that I was wrong.

First question is : how does it work ? Does each nature magic level give the unit a % bonus to age limit ? I thought it was 30% (tested in CBM 1.92), then I happened to empower a precious unique hero recently in MP, and noticed a +51% bonus to age limit !

Before empowerment
http://tof.canardpc.com/view/cdfb622...cb33ef1866.jpg

After empowerment
http://tof.canardpc.com/view/5d60a20...ff6d261e35.jpg

Second question is : Is there a difference between vanilla & CBM about this ?

shonuf September 13th, 2012 07:56 AM

Re: Nature magic and age limit mechanism
 
I see that herr Klaus has fire magic too, which decreases life span. And I have read that death magic also affects old age/afflictions somehow though I cannot remember how at the moment. There might be some odd interference inbetween these... Have you tried empowering someone without D/F?

Fantomen September 13th, 2012 08:45 AM

Re: Nature magic and age limit mechanism
 
Possibly the 30% is based on the lifespan before fire magic penalty is applied, making it seem like closer to 50%?

Let's say fire magic reduces by 30% you'd have for example maxage 100 rduced to 70. If a nature pick boosted this based on 100 you'd go back from 70 to 100 which is closer to a 50% increase from 70.

Death magic does not affect lifespan or old age itself, but reduces the chance to get afflictions from old age. So it should not be a factor here.

Oor-tael September 13th, 2012 09:08 AM

Re: Nature magic and age limit mechanism
 
That could be an explanation, of course.

Does anyone know the real numbers behind this ?
% of old age bonus per nature level ?
% of old age reduction per fire level ?
% of reduced chance to get afflictions per death level ?

fantasma September 13th, 2012 11:29 AM

Re: Nature magic and age limit mechanism
 
If I remember correctly, the standard human goes from 50 to 75 if it has a nature pick, and from 50 to 48 with a fire pick. The 51% could be due to rounding. If I assue a base age of 151, +50% (N) -3% (F) the numbers fit. Not saying, that 3% is accurate.

Soyweiser September 13th, 2012 12:06 PM

Re: Nature magic and age limit mechanism
 
...

http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/User:...ging_mechanics

Only the start and max age is moddable. Percentages influenced by magical levels are not.

jimbojones1971 October 15th, 2012 01:44 AM

Re: Nature magic and age limit mechanism
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Soyweiser (Post 811115)
...

http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/User:...ging_mechanics

Only the start and max age is moddable. Percentages influenced by magical levels are not.

Thanks Soy. Interesting stuff.


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