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Tachanka- тачанка - Taczanka -Tatschanka - Tačianka
Tough about introduction of such vehicles for some OOBs when was mentioned in Polish OOB thread about Taczanka wz.28 & wz.36 This vehicle was genuine Russian invention first build during civil war in Russia and used by both sides Reds and White. That is simple horse four wheel cart with installed machine-gun able to shoot in rear sphere and sometimes even AA-fire usually MG was possible to disassemble and using in conventional way. Generally they were created to give cavalry MG fire without complicated unpacking and placing on the position. They where able to follow cavalry with the same speed.
Tachanka's in Soviet Union Improvised version from civil war times Usually civilian version of cart with two horses with added Maxim HMG without any special standing point http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...chankacr8.jpg/ M1928 Looks like that was some standardization in that times M1928 was even able to AA fire http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/5...722962xcw7.jpg http://lib.rus.ec/i/92/375592/pic_15.jpg http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/a...ogo_010544.jpg http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/5...722966xtc9.jpg How long they were use there is photo from Moscov defense and even from 1944. Polish LWP Manual after the war in 1951 mentioned about tachanka in MG-units what mean that they were as long as cavalry units in soviet and satellite states what my means somewhere until 1955? http://lib.rus.ec/i/92/375592/pic_18.jpg Moscov defense http://lib.rus.ec/i/92/375592/pic_19.jpg Photo from 1944 looks like civil war improvised pattern http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4985/rg1zu2.jpg http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3096/rg2vf3.jpg Pictures from Polish military manual about Taczanka. Is rather certain that such schema was taken from soviet organisation of such units as we can see there was 6 solders who were involved in keep such vehicle running. http://getwar.ru/wp-content/gallery/maksim/04.jpg http://war1945.ru/uploads/posts/2011...fense-kiev.jpg http://war1945.ru/uploads/posts/2011...fense-kiev.jpg Wartime photos from Kiev defence 1941 |
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So, it appears that the "technical" is actually a pretty old invention...
Joking aside, it seems like a highly sensible way of moving the MGs for traditional horse cavalry. Do you know if the Soviet or Polish cavalry tried using anti-tank rifles or light mortars in a similar way? (I suppose 50mm mortars could work.) |
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I also never heard about such installations by default tachanka has only MG
German has two standard models German army used lf.3 and lf.5 tachankas armed with 2 Anti-Aircraft machine guns each. Their propose was a little bit different they were mainly use for AA protection with ability to ground fire in polish a soviet army they were mobile MG with AA fire as an option http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...er_Gebiete.jpg MG Wagen 36 (If. 5), German anti-aircraft variant, armed with a double MG34, in Sudetenland, 1938 http://odkrywca.pl/forum_pics/picsforum2/19633258.jpg http://www.super-hobby.dk/zdjecia/0/...auto_downl.jpg http://www.model-making.eu/zdjecia/2...auto_downl.jpg |
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And finally Polish army. After improvised version during Polish-Soviet war tachanka was standardised as
Taczanka wz.28 AS mentioned in polish OOB thread equipped with Maxim MG on Schwarzlose stand able for AA fire http://odkrywca.pl/forum_pics/picsforum11/1_copy101.jpg http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/o...l/prev1982.jpg http://odkrywca.pl/forum_pics/picsforum24/2_f_copy1.jpg http://odkrywca.pl/forum_pics/picsfo...1_copy2809.jpg http://odkrywca.pl/forum_pics/picsforum25/_tacz.jpg Taczanka wz.36 with wz.30 MG was able for AA fire as well ground MG what is interesting that some of them collected from battlefields was hidden and use also in partisan actions of AK polish underground especially in operation Tempest http://www.dobroni.pl/foto_news/36_2.jpg http://www.dobroni.pl/foto_news/36_4.jpg http://odkrywca.pl/forum_pics/picsfo...1_copy3619.jpg |
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Game terms this would not be much different to loading machine guns on wagons / sleds. Not a great way of moving them but certainly I have used sleds playing as Russians to move MGs.
This is because the unit should not be able to move & fire, rear arc would only make that a useful tactic to cover retreat anyway. |
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There's a nice page: http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepa...__5/if__5.html If.3 was solely a transport wagon http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepa...__3/if__3.html . |
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It appears that the tripod mounts for the MGs were usually carried in the same cart, so definitely they would be used when not on the march. The cart mount is high enough to be very vulnerable to machine gun fire and artillery. Unfortunately there is no way to model this flexibility in the game. |
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