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Spanish OOBs - pictures only
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I have some suggestions as for Republican Spain and Spain, limited to pictures this season.
Republican Spain 86, 124, 143 Obus 75mm L32 - picture is Italian mountain 75/18 gun. Italian OOB uses 36901 for a field gun, which seems correct (by the way, it probably shouldn't be modern 75/32 gun, but rather one of WWI 75/27 guns, but I won't go into this minefield now). 88, 126, 145 Obus 76.2mm - picture is 18pdr, should be Soviet M.1902, eg. 19786 or 19802 93, 130, 148 Obus 105mm - I'm attaching a picture of Vickers 105mm (95, 131, 150 Obus 114mm - I guess it should rather be short on-map 4.5in FH, than 4.5in long-range gun, which was accepted by the British in 1940 - but it would concern picture, icon and weapon's range) 103 Canon AT 45mm - picture is 37mm Pak, correct is 49 (107 Canon Inf 37mm - more specific picture of TR mle 16 is 30291 or 28004) (111 Canon Inf 65mm - I proposed a specific picture of 65mm gun in the Polish OOB) 119 AmetralladoraAA - better Maxim-looking AAMG picture is 27141 121 Canon AA 37mm - picture and icon is AT gun - possibly it should be German 3.7cm flak? (Soviet one was introduced in 1939 only) - then icon 64, picture 141 153 Bateria 152mm - picture is 8in, should be Soviet 23256 (if it is M.1910 howitzer). 154 Bateria 155mm - picture is Soviet 152mm ML-20, should be 30290 159 Bateria 150mm - picture should be 17039, as unit 152 Bateria 150mm 164, 178 Mrtrs Delaunay - icon and picture is 75mm howitzer. It looked like this: http://www.amonio.es/mortero_delaunay.htm Possibly it's pm19722 186 Amet. vz.37 - picture is Soviet SGM(?). Correct is eg. 22114. Same for unit 214. 189 Amet Browning - picture is Vickers, should be eg. 31000 - or maybe rather its Polish 7.92 clone 29695, which was exported to Spain (I don't know, if M1917 was). Same for unit 210. 314 Esc de F.Amet - picture is some belt-fed MG - correct DP LMG is 27093, as unit 319. 325 Camion GAZ ZiS - photo is Polish Ursus, should be 165 for ZiS-5 or 166 for GAZ. (331 G. Asalto LMG - could have a picture of LMG 27077, as unit 317) 362 F.Amet Montana - picture of Hotchkiss LMG is 27077, now it is Benet-Mercier. (393 Potez 25 - much better icon is 483 of R-Z - it was a large aircraft with rectangular wings. (395 Circo Krone - as far as I could find, Circo Krone was a nickname of a bomber unit - and this plane is just Kolhooven FK.51) 406 Vildebeest MkIV - I'm attaching a photo of Spanish Vildebeest, which looked quite different. 408-410 Breguet Br XIX - a picture is not Bre XIX, but rather some transport. I'm attaching a proper one in government markings 430 Douglas DC-2 - icon is single-engine. (441, 442 CB Tiznao - all improvised APC currently have one icon - maybe for example these two should be given 2845 (from Polish Kubuś improvised APC)? Grey would be OK, for "Tiznaos" meant "the grey ones") (443 CB Durruti - maybe a better icon is 457 with a turret? This unit has HMG, and a turret on a picture) (445 Sadurni de Noya - I'm attaching pictures better showing the vehicle. It is usually known as IGC Sadurni, btw) 446 El Piojo - I'm attaching a correct photo of a vehicle known as "Piojo Móvil" (Mobile pillbox?) - from http://www.fotosmilitares.org/viewto...=1963&start=30 (Unfortunately, I haven't found other information, especially to verify its multi-MG armament) 454 CB Bilbao M 32 - photo is UNL-35 (maybe a better one, that already used by unit 453). I'm attaching a correct Bilbao. (472, 475, 477 Trubria M - in all cases a correct name is "Trubia" - https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A...rmas_de_Trubia) (473 Artilleria M 16 - it's worth to give this Schneider CA1 a new icon someday, but as for now a better one seems 1916 (only lacking a wedge bow), than a turreted current one) 479,480 T-26 M 33 - photo in fact shows distinct Nationalist markings - I'm attaching a proper one (or even the Soviet one would do). Michal |
Re: Spanish OOBs - pictures only
Spain (Nationalist)
038 Vierling Azul - proper pic is 13201 043 8cm GrW 34 Azul - picture is generic Soviet mortar, German is eg 13168 or 13170 044 12cm GrW42 Azul - picture is generic (postwar?) mortar, German is 13172. Same for unit 281. 046 Amet. MG42 Azul - picture is LMG instead of MMG, proper is 13111. Same for unit 278 (051-053, 346 Infanteria Azul - a minor issue, but a picture are German FJg with their specific helmets) 056 Kl PzBef Wg - I've proposed a photo of a Spanish one - they were significant for they were the earliest series, without a cupola. Same for unit 283. 062 Bt 17cm Azul - proper pic is 13081 (current is Soviet 152mm) 093,94 CL de Inf M17m.. - I've attached photos of Spanish FT 17 195 Esc de F.Amet - picture of Hotchkiss M1922 LMG is 27077, now it is Benet-Mercier. Same for 354. (197 Esc de F.Amet - they could be given a photo of Breda LMG 16090 or 27074) 215 Fusile AT - proper pic of Pzb-39 is 070 (now it's Solothurn) 222 Fusile AT - proper pic of T-Gewehr is 25583 (now it's Solothurn) 271 AmetralladoraAA - better picture of German AAMG is 19679. Same for unit 282. 284... 307 Camion Blindado - picture in fact shows vehicles with anarchist FAI inscription ;) I've attached a picture of typical nationalist Ferrol cars. 288 CB Bilbao M 32 - I've attached a correct picture (as Republican 454 CB Bilbao M 32 above) 294, 304 Trubria M 37 - it wasn't Trubia at all, but it is known as CCI M.1937 or C.C.I. Tipo 1937 (Carro de Combate de Infanteria). (eg. http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/tanks/s...i_tipo1937.htm ) 295 and so on - CL de Inf T-26B - picture should be M.33 instead of M.39. 18083 shows a tank with nationalist markings. 303 CL de Inf Pz IB - better picture of Spanish tank is Pm30311, or I've attached another one. (350 Paracaidista - the unit has no LMG, while the picture is one soldier with MG-42) (359 Escuadra AT - maybe a picture should be 296 Solothurn?) |
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Back to nationalist Spain: 442 CTV 6.5mm Fiat - a photo is Breda MMG - I'm attaching a proper one (the same for Italian OOB) 450, 455, 510 CTV Obice 75L32 - picture is Italian mountain 75/18 gun. Italian OOB uses 36901 for a field gun. (by the way, a weapon probably shouldn't be modern 75/32 gun Modello 37, as indicated in Republican OOB...) (470, 471 Canon Inf 37mm 474, 475 Canon Inf 65mm - as units 107,111 in Republican OOB above) 476, 479 Canon Inf 75mm - picture of leIG18 should be eg. 42020 495, 500 10cm K18 Canon - correct icon is twin-trail 60 (used in GE OOB) 498, 504 Obus de 105mm - I've attached a picture of Vickers 105mm 499, 507 Obus de 114mm - same remarks, as Republican 95 end |
Re: Spanish OOBs - pictures only
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It's amazingly difficult to find a good wartime picture of Republican I-16...
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