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Andy Watkins March 18th, 2002 04:05 PM

New player struggling
 
Hi,

I am new to SEIV and am struggling. It seems very complex and poorly documented.

Simple example - what is a weapons platform, I can't find any reference to it anywhere, it might be for fighting off ground troops, perhaps enemy space ships, why weigh 200,000 tons, why is it cargo??

I must be missing a manual or something somewhere?

HELP !!!

Andy

Dracus March 18th, 2002 04:10 PM

Re: New player struggling
 
It is a type of ground platform used to fight off ships that get too close to the planet in combat.

Grayhorse March 18th, 2002 04:16 PM

Re: New player struggling
 
Welcome to the game and the forum Andy.

Dont be too frustrated, it will come to you. Eventually you will be like the rest of us, hooked and modding new addons to the game.

As to your question, it is a platform that you will use to defend your planet with in combat. You will need to place weapon mounts and shielding on the platform for better defense. Another good suggestion is armor. This way, when the computer or other players attack you, it is better for defending and warding off the enemy ships. Hope this helps.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Suicide Junkie March 18th, 2002 04:22 PM

Re: New player struggling
 
A weapons platform is basically a self-contained military base. When they are in a planet's "cargo", they are deployed across the surface, and can fire at passing warships.
They are useless while carried on board a ship or space station.

Growltigga March 18th, 2002 04:42 PM

Re: New player struggling
 
Andy, welcome to the forum and I am glad that yet another Brit has joined the forum to add a bit of class to all these north americans http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Dont worry about asking any questions however daft you may feel they are because (a) we all lacked a manual once and learnt through trial, error and asking people and (b) your questions wont be daft, guaranteed

PsychoTechFreak March 18th, 2002 04:55 PM

Re: New player struggling
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Growltigga the Great:
Andy, welcome to the forum and I am glad that yet another Brit has joined the forum to add a bit of class to all these north americans http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<hr></blockquote>

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Don't be offended by this, it does not display my opinion, of course... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ 18 March 2002: Message edited by: PsychoTechFreak ]</p>

Rollo March 18th, 2002 05:02 PM

Re: New player struggling
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by PsychoTechFreak:


This reminds me a message which has been published during the Last election in US:
...
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ROTFL http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

wr8th March 18th, 2002 05:22 PM

Re: New player struggling
 
Andy,

As a newbie myself, it helps if you have some recollection of MOO2. The game is similar in many ways albeit more complex.

Trial and error is sometimes the way to go. Playing the Klingons, one of my colonies rebelled (in the home system yet). How to go about bringing it back in line? I had researched "troops" earlier but had no clue how to use them. WTH, just give it a go, put 'em on a transport and include in a fleet of LC's, DDs, and a Light Carrier. Soften up the planet and send in the troops. I had barely enough but armed with Meson BLasters 3 (early in game) they squeaked out a victory. I also gleened that approx 1 militia point is generated planetside for every 20 MM pop.

Don't get frustrated. Part of the fun is watching the game unfold as you learn.

capnq March 19th, 2002 12:25 AM

Re: New player struggling
 
Since no-one else has mentioned it:

Weapon platforms, fighters, troops, and drones are "units", which can be cargo; bases are classified as ships. When you are designing (Designs, F3) or building (Construction, F7; or Construction Queue, Q), ships and units are on seperate tabs.

MikeRMcCartney March 20th, 2002 01:04 AM

Re: New player struggling
 
Andy, I'm a person in the same situation, and can say this is the VERY BEST forum ever. They have answered ever question I've asked (no matter if it's dumb or not!). As for me, I play my game until I run into a problem or question, then scan the forum and ask questions until I get it solved. Then I continue playing. If you like to play fast, my method may not be very good. I'm already 4 months into my first game.


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