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Grayhorse March 22nd, 2002 10:55 PM

ECM vs ECCM.....Need Input
 
Ok, we have ECM already in game, so that in and of itself is no big deal. But we are wanting to add ECCM to the game. Is this feasible? Im trying to determine if it is possible to create a ship component that will allow Electronic Counter Counter Measures to work, like in the board game FE.

Anyone out there have any ideas? Im thinking this might be a hard code issue and thusly not possible, but wanted to see what you all thought. Input as usual, is greatly appreciated!!!

PvK March 22nd, 2002 11:01 PM

Re: ECM vs ECCM.....Need Input
 
Well, Combat Sensors are the answer. If FE is Federation & Empire, which was based on Star Fleet Battles, then I can guess that yes, it works almost the same way, except that in SE4, Combat Sensors give a bonus to hit if they exceed enemy ECM. In SE4 in patches since er... a year or so ago, to-hit mods that don't replace each other are additive for attacker and target, so +65 to hit on a target with a -50 defensive bonus results in a net +15 to hit, which is then added to the base hit chance and the range modifier, etc. Every to-hit mod (besides multiple components of the same type) adds.

PvK

Grayhorse March 22nd, 2002 11:07 PM

Re: ECM vs ECCM.....Need Input
 
My question is this though, would it need to be hard coded, or can we make a ship component now that would take away ECM from the enemies ships?

Suicide Junkie March 22nd, 2002 11:24 PM

Re: ECM vs ECCM.....Need Input
 
You could make a weapon that specifically targets ECM devices...

geoschmo March 22nd, 2002 11:30 PM

Re: ECM vs ECCM.....Need Input
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Grayhorse:
My question is this though, would it need to be hard coded, or can we make a ship component now that would take away ECM from the enemies ships?<hr></blockquote>As PvK said, if the goal is to have it eliminate all ECM up to the limit of the other players ECM, but not give yourself a positive modifier with any leftover, then no, it's not possible without a hard code change.

Combat sensors will couter act the ECM, but if the Combat sensors are stronger than the ECM, the difference becomes a positive modifier for the attacker.

Or you could do as SJ suggests and have a ECCM that doesn't modify to hit chances, but destroys the ECM component itself. Although, SJ, is that one that is doable now? I think not everything is specifically targetable like that.

Geoschmo

Suicide Junkie March 23rd, 2002 12:46 AM

Re: ECM vs ECCM.....Need Input
 
You'd have to fudge your way through it, by using the "only boarding parties" ability, or maybe the "only spaceports" ability.
Haven't tried the planetary facility abilities/targetting on components, or vs shields, but they're something to try.

Grayhorse March 23rd, 2002 02:30 AM

Re: ECM vs ECCM.....Need Input
 
Ok. Thats what I kind of figured. I was hoping to be able to actually do ECCM, but without the hard code changes, I didnt think it was possible. Oh well. Back to the drawing board.


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