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DavidG June 14th, 2002 12:58 PM

Fleets pass each other by??
 
Has anyone else notice this annoying fleet behavior? in a multi simultaneaous game I see an enemy fleet approching. So I give my fleet attack orders and then during movement replay next turn I watch as they sail past each other often occupying the same spot. Espcially annoying one time as the planet my fleet left got glassed by the other fleet.

Bman June 14th, 2002 03:22 PM

Re: Fleets pass each other by??
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
Has anyone else notice this annoying fleet behavior? in a multi simultaneaous game I see an enemy fleet approching. So I give my fleet attack orders and then during movement replay next turn I watch as they sail past each other often occupying the same spot. Espcially annoying one time as the planet my fleet left got glassed by the other fleet.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This happened to me once, costing me 2 colony ships.
When I played the movement replay, my ships would move first, then the enemies. So, my ships would move into his sector, then his ships would move out (towards my colony ships). Then my ships would move into his sector, then his ships would move out. This repeated until his ships moved into my colony ship sector. There was combat which killed my colony ships. Then my attack ships again moved into his sector, and since his ships had no more orders they sat there and combat occured and I killed his ships. It was real annoying.

Suicide Junkie June 14th, 2002 03:45 PM

Re: Fleets pass each other by??
 
Were they both moving on the same turn-day?

Baron Munchausen June 14th, 2002 04:47 PM

Re: Fleets pass each other by??
 
If your fleet and his had the same speed, that is how it's supposed to happen. Don't look at the fleet positions on the screen, look at their relative speeds. It might have looked like your fleet was catching up due to turn order, but if speed was the same they were not.

Bman June 14th, 2002 08:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
If your fleet and his had the same speed, that is how it's supposed to happen. Don't look at the fleet positions on the screen, look at their relative speeds. It might have looked like your fleet was catching up due to turn order, but if speed was the same they were not.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We moved at the same speed but in OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS. My attack fleet was between his fleet and my colony ships. Since we had the same speed, I naturally assumed that when I gave my ships the attack order, they would intercept him, not just fly by and then circle around and chase (and never catchup as you are saying).

Gryphin June 14th, 2002 09:51 PM

Re: Fleets pass each other by??
 
BMan,
Is it possible that your fleet went to the point the enemy fleet was when you gave the Attack order and then turned to follow it??
If so, that makes for a very nasty "issue"

[ June 14, 2002, 20:51: Message edited by: The High Gryphin ]

LGM June 14th, 2002 10:46 PM

Re: Fleets pass each other by??
 
The Gold Manual indicates that combat occurs every 5th day. If you never occupy the same square on days 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, or 30, then combat will not occur. This could easily happen if you have really fast movement rates so that move increments happen in less than 5 days (7+ movement). I have never confirmed the information in the manual however.

Bman June 14th, 2002 10:56 PM

Re: Fleets pass each other by??
 
Quote:

Originally posted by The High Gryphin:
BMan,
Is it possible that your fleet went to the point the enemy fleet was when you gave the Attack order and then turned to follow it??
If so, that makes for a very nasty "issue"

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No. What would happen is: my fleet would move onto the square with his fleet. Then his fleet would move off of it (and towards my colony ships). From this point on, I am chasing him. My fleet moves onto his square, then he moves off.

Someone has posted that combat occurs every 5th day and also whenever someone in the square is capable of moving. The bug is that both fleets are moving "at the same time". If they are only 1 square apart they effectively pass each other up in between the squares.

DavidG June 15th, 2002 12:15 AM

Re: Fleets pass each other by??
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bman:
If they are only 1 square apart they effectively pass each other up in between the squares.[/QB]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yup this is what happend to me too. Very annoying!

Mephisto June 15th, 2002 01:58 AM

Re: Fleets pass each other by??
 
Combat does occur when you are in the same square as the enemy and have a movement point. Question is, when do you get a movement point?
Each turn (month) has 30 days.
A ship with speed 6 would get a movement point every 5 days (30/6=5).
A ship with speed 10 would get a movement point every 3 days (30/10=3).


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